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re: ARM TechCon Teardown Smackdown: Dell Streak vs. The Archos 7
Brian Fuller2   11/9/2010 10:25:57 PM
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Alban, hope to see you this week. To your point: I showed the Streak to my Apple-bigotted son (18 years old) and he loved it. This could be because he still has an old Samsung clamshell mobile phone and would like to be more Web-enabled as he skateboards to school.

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re: ARM TechCon Teardown Smackdown: Dell Streak vs. The Archos 7
AlbanRampon   11/4/2010 11:00:42 AM
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Dear all, I'm not sure on the small format Dell Streak future... A lot of the "trendy" and successful products are quite popular amongst teenagers, most of them spending their parents money. However, as much as I liked it *very* much, the teens did not really fancy the Streak when I showed it in a local School. They were more impressed by the Kindle! I guess they still have the sharp eyesight ;) The Samsung Galaxy Tab is quite sexy too. I feel "we" need to decide ourselves on what size is the most happy with... Huge phone or comfy tablet?! Kind regards, Alban ARM Connected Community

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re: ARM TechCon Teardown Smackdown: Dell Streak vs. The Archos 7
Brian Fuller2   10/29/2010 8:31:28 PM
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I have to say, having played around with the Streak before the teardown, it may be a tablet (one of scores coming to market) but Dell's done a really nice job on it. It makes going back to a cell phone weird and it's far more portable than an iPad. The only thing you have to get over is using such a brick-size device as a phone (although it's much lighter than those original Motorola bricks in the 1980s).

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re: ARM TechCon Teardown Smackdown: Dell Streak vs. The Archos 7
Neo10   10/28/2010 6:17:31 AM
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Dell will still be here in 5 years not to worry on that. But the bug question is in what place. They are struggling with the laptop sales going down and having lost market share to HP last year. They are cautious in testing the android for the gadgets 'cause no one knows where the x-pads, x-lets, etc are leading to.

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re: ARM TechCon Teardown Smackdown: Dell Streak vs. The Archos 7
goafrit   10/28/2010 1:11:22 AM
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I wish Dell will still be here in five years. I am worried that investing in Dell with its performance and execution strategies may be wrong headed. You cannot build on others ideas, you need your own. Dell must innovate to be taken seriously.

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re: ARM TechCon Teardown Smackdown: Dell Streak vs. The Archos 7
Brian Fuller2   10/27/2010 4:28:36 PM
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I'm gunning for you, my friend! Are you ready to RUMMMMMBBBBBLLLLEEEE????

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re: ARM TechCon Teardown Smackdown: Dell Streak vs. The Archos 7
patrick.mannion   10/27/2010 12:42:41 PM
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Hi Charbax, I really liked the look of the Archos 70 (and the newer 101) and thought they would be great teardown candidates! (I like your videos by the way). The 70 may actually be available now so maybe I'll get to do both the 7 and the 70..if not, maybe I'll nab yours! That said, I like the hardware and software design contrast between the entry-level Archos 7 for the home user and the high-end, more mobile Streak. A teardown done by our colleagues at TechInsights of the Galaxy Tab bore out the suspicion that Samsung would reuse much of the insides of its Galaxy S cellphone, but clearly provided a much different user experience. See that teardown here: http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4210143/Samsung-tablet-borrows-handset-chips. But, with the Streak vs. Archos 7 Home Tablet, there's a clearly different target market and user experience and for designers interested in the hardware and software trade-offs associated with each, the contrast may be useful. PS: I started the teardown and swapped out the image. Thanks!

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re: ARM TechCon Teardown Smackdown: Dell Streak vs. The Archos 7
Charbax   10/27/2010 11:19:54 AM
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I'll bring my sArchos 70 Internet Tablet, at just $269 it brings ARM Cortex A8 45nm 1ghz, 7" capacitive, HDMI and all audio/video codecs. I'm writing this comment on my $199 Archos 43 Internet Tablet, same specs but 4.3" resistive (but siensitiive), also Android 2.2 (Dell uses somewhat "old" version of the 65nm snapdragon and supports few video codecs. By the way, you are talling about the Archos 7 Home Tablet, the Archos 7 Intternet Media Tablet picture you use is of the 65nm ARM Cortex A8 non-Android (but multi-OS hackable) hard drive based tablet that Archos released back in late 2008.

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re: ARM TechCon Teardown Smackdown: Dell Streak vs. The Archos 7
patrick.mannion   10/27/2010 12:10:06 AM
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Brian Fuller and myself will be going deep inside the Dell Streak and Archos 7 in a comparative teardown 'smackdown' at the up-coming ARM TechCon in Santa Clara. But the issue really isn't which is the 'best' device. It's more about how the design teams managed the constraints they were under at the time of the design. What is it you'd like to see 'exposed' here?



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