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re: Report: Intel gains Israel fab grant
Baolt   1/4/2011 12:51:41 AM
At the time of globalization sooner of later intel would also move to far east, keeping R&D at hometown. Thats fact besides if goverments would see this reality and support them with such bonuses as a result of staying at home and keeping jobs running they wouldnt go far. Mr.Otellini bargaining with israil (as its a habit in M.East :), with good reason, running factories out of Fareast is quite costly, and i bet will get whatever he requests

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re: Report: Intel gains Israel fab grant
NimrodO0l1   1/3/2011 8:55:12 PM
Intel's fab in Oregon is a replacement for a fab, D1D, closed in 2009/2010. That fab employed between 900 and 1000 people. So, almost no new net employment. It appears that Intel Oregon employment will be just below the peak in 2006. Actually, the new fab, like the closed one, will be used to bring up (or debug) the latest and greatest process. The fab will be then 'copied-exactly' elsewhere. 'Elsewhere' as in not in the USA. Otellini has stated that it would cost at least $1B more to bring a fab up in the USA vs rest of world. The new Fab, D1X, is in Oregon because Intel's best bring up team lives in Oregon. It would be quite risky to try to replicate the team elsewhere. Also, it may be impossible to transfer the key team members outside the country. A lot, if not most, of the $N Billion in equipment is no longer built in the USA. So, much of the investment will go to overseas companies. It will be nice to have 6000-8000 of Oregon's 40,000 unemployed construction workers employed for up to 2 years. Note: since no new jobs, there is no need for new houses. So, little long-term follow-on construction. Because of previous deals, Oregon will get no property taxes on the high-tech equipment and almost no income taxes from the chips produced. I described some of this to someone familiar with 1990's era deals who reacted: "Wow! Oregon is acting like a desperate Third World country!". Based on the story, it would appear that Israel is only half-desperate.

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re: Report: Intel gains Israel fab grant
yalanand   1/3/2011 7:12:12 PM
Intel is becoming truly global company, building fabs across world. This will definitely help make semiconductor industry a truly matured industry.

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re: Report: Intel gains Israel fab grant
kdboyce   1/3/2011 7:17:34 AM
As I commented on the story here: http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4210670/Report--Debate-rages-over-Intel-Israel-fab-semiconductor Intel Israel has been a very long term arrangement for both the Israeli government and Intel. It is a natural continuation of the existing business. I don't view it has not "keeping jobs in America". Intel has a history of upgrading and building new fabs in various places. In Oct. 2010, Intel confirmed building a new fab in Oregon for R&D to be opened in 2013 creating between 800-1000 permanent jobs and about 6000-8000 construction job. Intel will also be upgrading 4 other US fabs for a total of $6B-8B investment. Source: EETimes 10/19/2010 In Feb. 2010, Intel finished closing 1 of 4 fabs in Ireland, eliminating ~294 jobs. Source: EETimes 2/19/2010. In the same month EETimes reported that Intel Labs European initiative started in 2009 now has 20 labs and 900 researchers. I do hope Intel will continue to build modern fabs here in the US and increase jobs here.

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re: Report: Intel gains Israel fab grant
Dr Consumer Electronics   1/2/2011 11:05:10 PM
I am supprised Andy and Paul talked a lot about keeping the Jobs in America and worried about eveyone is moving the jobs outside US. It is easy to give advise...Please walk the talk.

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