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re: Italian scientists claim cold fusion success
zhgreader   4/9/2012 1:00:19 AM
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Time flies fast. A year has passed, is there any news about this invent ?

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low-energy nuclear reactions   3/10/2012 2:47:33 PM
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The theory of the reactor A.Rossi I know! Received a patent for a new energy method. This is steeper than that of A. Rossi. Method of multi-functional! And the chemical reactor and the reactor low-energy nuclear reactions, and the reactor is controlled cold fusion! Who would have bought the patent and know-how? For free, under the contract. ?????? ???????? ?.????? ???? ?! ??????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????????????? ??????. ??? ????? ??? ? ?. ?????. ?????? ???????????????????! ? ?????????? ???????, ? ??????? ??????????????????? ??????? ???????, ? ??????? ???????????? ????????? ????????????? ???????!!! ??? ?? ????? ?????? ? ???-???? ????? ?????????, ?? ?????????.

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motti2   8/5/2011 11:36:34 PM
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When Szpak and the rest of the San Diego navy team incorporates huge concentration of D (deuterium) from heavy water coplating to form their metal CF host material, the D concentration in the metal increase from coplating verus trying to inject D /D2 from water as P&F did, makes the neutron rate statistics undeniable from a tiny electroplated metal deposit . Cold fusion's physics mechanism is unclear, and not generally "accepted" "theoretical" science, BUT the experimental evidence P&F nuclear reactions, and navy Szpak team profuse neutron emission, both actually are undeniable even if folks ignore the data, and disparage the scientists. Rossi seems likely true also. Rossi I have less direct understanding of the experimental results, but there is the matter that he is increasing the H (monatomic Hydrogen) by dissociating diatomic H2 hydrogen gas by passing the H2 over catalyst materials to do the dissociation of the H2. Why does this matter? because the diffusivity of H monatomic into heated Nickel (or other metals) is hugely higher than H2 undissociated. Hence Rossi is a gas phase analogous strategy to increase Hydrogen loading INTO the host metal matrix for CF cold fusion to occur at high event rates. for now it seems that folks who question CF are either uninformed, or possess conflicts of interest of either professional or financial nature. CF is real, practical engineering of power producing devices is all that is at issue (seems easier with Rossi), even if the theory lags, even if the theory is not generally understood / generally accepted as yet. Read this patent application of Rossi to minimize your own ill informed disparagement, it hints enough of the substance, even if the physics theory is not there yet. (who cares about the theory) http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2011/0005506.html

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motti2   8/5/2011 11:35:33 PM
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When Szpak and the rest of the San Diego navy team incorporates huge concentration of D (deuterium) from heavy water coplating to form their metal CF host material, the D concentration in the metal increase from coplating verus trying to inject D /D2 from water as P&F did, makes the neutron rate statistics undeniable from a tiny electroplated metal deposit . Cold fusion's physics mechanism is unclear, and not generally "accepted" "theoretical" science, BUT the experimental evidence P&F nuclear reactions, and navy Szpak team profuse neutron emission, both actually are undeniable even if folks ignore the data, and disparage the scientists. Rossi seems likely true also. Rossi I have less direct understanding of the experimental results, but there is the matter that he is increasing the H (monatomic Hydrogen) by dissociating diatomic H2 hydrogen gas by passing the H2 over catalyst materials to do the dissociation of the H2. Why does this matter? because the diffusivity of H monatomic into heated Nickel (or other metals) is hugely higher than H2 undissociated. Hence Rossi is a gas phase analogous strategy to increase Hydrogen loading INTO the host metal matrix for CF cold fusion to occur at high event rates. for now it seems that folks who question CF are either uninformed, or possess conflicts of interest of either professional or financial nature. CF is real, practical engineering of power producing devices is all that is at issue (seems easier with Rossi), even if the theory lags, even if the theory is not generally understood / generally accepted as yet. Read this patent application of Rossi to minimize your own ill informed disparagement, it hints enough of the substance, even if the physics theory is not there yet. (who cares about the theory) http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2011/0005506.html

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motti2   8/5/2011 11:34:15 PM
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When Szpak and the rest of the San Diego navy team incorporates huge concentration of D (deuterium) from heavy water coplating to form their metal CF host material, the D concentration in the metal increase from coplating verus trying to inject D /D2 from water as P&F did, makes the neutron rate statistics undeniable from a tiny electroplated metal deposit . Cold fusion's physics mechanism is unclear, and not generally "accepted" "theoretical" science, BUT the experimental evidence P&F nuclear reactions, and navy Szpak team profuse neutron emission, both actually are undeniable even if folks ignore the data, and disparage the scientists. Rossi seems likely true also. Rossi I have less direct understanding of the experimental results, but there is the matter that he is increasing the H (monatomic Hydrogen) by dissociating diatomic H2 hydrogen gas by passing the H2 over catalyst materials to do the dissociation of the H2. Why does this matter? because the diffusivity of H monatomic into heated Nickel (or other metals) is hugely higher than H2 undissociated. Hence Rossi is a gas phase analogous strategy to increase Hydrogen loading INTO the host metal matrix for CF cold fusion to occur at high event rates. for now it seems that folks who question CF are either uninformed, or possess conflicts of interest of either professional or financial nature. CF is real, practical engineering of power producing devices is all that is at issue (seems easier with Rossi), even if the theory lags, even if the theory is not generally understood / generally accepted as yet. Read this patent application of Rossi to minimize your own ill informed disparagement, it hints enough of the substance, even if the physics theory is not there yet. (who cares about the theory) http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2011/0005506.html

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motti2   8/5/2011 11:33:48 PM
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The discussions here are almost funny. Pons and Fleischman indeed discovered cold fusion, but at very low irreproducible statistics. BFD, the disparaging comments were unaware that the issue with P&F was low less reproducible deuterium loading INTO the metal matrix. A Navy science team down in San Diego fixed that - low deuterium loading into the metal (Szpak and others) by coplating the metal in heavy water, forming a deposit chock full of deuterium ( high concentration) at the get go in the forming of metal deposit, versus trying to load deuterium INTO a solid piece of cast metal. The key analogous component of the Rossi technology not discussed here (albeit with hydrogen for Rossi versus deuterium for most other prior cold fusion efforts) is Rossi loads hydrogen at high concentration into his Nickel, by passing the high pressure hydrogen gas over a dissociating catalyst, that forms 2 x H ( monatomic hydrogen ) from diatomic Hydrogen gas. Why is this detail important? The diffusivity of monatomic hydrogen in metal / Nickel is hugely higher hence loading /concentration of Hydrogen beats the P&F conundrum of P&F low irreproducible hydrogen loading into the metal matrix. Folks who scorn P&F are fools, not comprehending that their less reproducible results were just due to low deuterium loading concentration, not because the fundamental nuclear reactions were not present. Excess heat only is one indication of high (cold fusion) reaction rates ( neutron emission, radiation and transmutation are all similar evidence depending on the transutation pathway), and absence of excess heat with observation of the appropriate nuclear lines still is indicating that CF might be present (criteria P&F met even if less reproducible, the physics was seen often enough even if not frequent).

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Conte43   7/13/2011 12:40:21 PM
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First of all, they are 'Azzurri', not Azuris. And if I remember well, Enrico Fermi, Ettore Majorana, Emilio Segrč, Edoardo Amaldi, Franco Rasetti, Bruno Pontecorvo and Gulielmo Marconi didn't play soccer.

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fznidarsic   3/7/2011 9:23:24 PM
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My papers on Cold fusion may be found at Microsoft Academic. http://academic.research.microsoft.com/Author/7519801.aspx Frank Znidarsic

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resistion   2/5/2011 6:42:47 AM
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Yes look for Co and Cu products and can it work without water or hydrogen but use helium instead.

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unknown multiplier   2/5/2011 3:40:10 AM
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Neutron emission is not a desirable characteristic of a nuclear reaction. The transfer to heating is not so efficient (it is uncharged and therefore not easy to transfer energy) but its ability to penetrate to outside victims is a higher risk. I wonder if the neutron emission is more probable than beta decay for some isotopes of these metals like nickel? In other words, maybe they were emitting neutrons naturally instead of following fusion, but the detection was not so obvious until immersed in water, since the water contains hydrogen which absorbs the momentum more strongly from neutrons? Neutron decay is harder to catch, since it does not affect the chemistry directly and its cross-section for ionization ia very small, neutrons being uncharged. But it is the most insidious form of radioactivity.

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