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chandan_e
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re: EDA not yet ready for cloud computing
chandan_e   2/3/2011 9:12:08 PM
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Yes indeed. Firing up a thousand servers for regressions is powerful, but not without the EDA licensing model changing. My boss would turn pale at the thought of buying 1000 verilog licenses.

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JamesColgan   2/3/2011 8:17:37 PM
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As AJ intimated, when considering the power and constraints of the cloud relative to EDA, it's really in the "eye of the beholder". For back-end tools we are challenged on two fronts - the amount of data to be transferred (bandwidth) and potentially the responsiveness of manipulations of graphical models (latency). The closer we move up towards the front-end of the design flow, the less relevant these concerns become. Indeed, the power of spinning up 1,000 servers to perform verification regressions in a day rather than a month is powerful, with no latency constraints of significance wrt the UI. Also, at higher levels of design abstraction, how much data really needs to be transferred? The business model is likely to be the only real hurdle to rolling out a commercial SaaS solution. But in reality, that could likely be boiled down to mathematics and product packaging.

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RamJet   2/3/2011 8:13:55 PM
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Are they saying there not ready for the Internet? You must be kidding!!!

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jeremy.ralph   2/3/2011 7:47:20 PM
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PDTi (productive-eda.com) has been providing a SaaS-based register management and automation solution for several years. The SpectaReg webapp can also be deployed onsite, on the private cloud.

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DMcCunney   2/3/2011 7:44:27 PM
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No "maybe" about it. Incorrect usage above, and a sign that no one is proofreading.

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danlutes   2/3/2011 7:38:50 PM
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"their eyes on cloud computing, but there feet"... maybe "their" feet?

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garydpdx   2/3/2011 3:18:04 PM
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Xuropa.com is an EDA cloud computing service that is being used by its customers (including Synopsys and Cadence) for marketing and limited evaluations (in an enclosed, online environment). It's hard to see EDA tools operating in an open, public environment like GoogleDocs but internal clouds for large enterprises should provide enough of a secure environment, I would imagine.

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yalanand   2/3/2011 4:07:25 AM
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What is the minimum network bandwidth that is required for cloud computing ?

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