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mranderson
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re: Indian technical education found lacking
mranderson   4/6/2011 4:34:44 AM
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Most chip development in India goes over there to die. Good engineers from all over the world still want to come work in the U.S.

lifewingmate
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re: Indian technical education found lacking
lifewingmate   4/6/2011 4:31:48 AM
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I agree with Kris/iniewski. I worked on IC design/implementation projects. Even though Indian architects/engineers were writing microarchitecture specifications in English per se in Chennai, India...we dubbed it Chennai English because it was up to us to formally "translate" what they meant and double-check if technically our teams were all on the same page. Instead of getting upset about offshoring, I think we should look domestically. We need to, on a grassroots level, support our local community's education issues. Where I am, we are laying off teachers and in my state, we have trouble funding public education. Education, training, and experience are all in the hands of individuals, their families, and their communities. Let's look inwards first to make sure our American communities are helping to meet the demands of highly skilled advanced high tech professions. We can partner with countries like India since it looks like everyone is struggling to train and qualify their own citizens. I think global partnerships and a higher standard in general of both education and hiring practices will help ensure a brighter future.

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re: Indian technical education found lacking
eewiz   4/6/2011 4:29:07 AM
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The quality will improve, gradually. Its not that the system will be stuck at where it is now for ever. Naysayers said similar things about Electronic products from Japan in 80's and Korea in 90's, which was probably right in those times. Now look whats the situation. "Innovation is suffering because the smarter engineers are being forced out" I cant see this happened in the case of Korea and Japan! Infact these countries IMO are more innovative than US. Outsourcing will continue forever, and its high time some people wake up to the idea!

krisi
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re: Indian technical education found lacking
krisi   4/5/2011 10:52:07 PM
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I think the verdict is still out...yes, many jobs moved there already...but initial experience is not that great, as the article says work done in India can be very inefficient...I know from some of my friends that it took 3x as long to design a complex IC and after five revs it still didn't work...but I am not sure these design jobs will come back, engineers in India will eventually learned to be efficient although they will be paid more so some soft of equilibrium will be established...Kris

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Mxv   4/5/2011 9:17:37 PM
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Bronx is right on the money. We all know that is is a fundamental shift taking place and that engineering standards are being lowered to the lowest common denominator -- the "offshore engineer". Innovation is suffering because the smarter engineers are being forced out and what's left is more pod people. Engineers replicated in developing countries to fill bodies for outsourcing companies (who frankly know that most of the engineers suck -- but they want to keep their costs low and make money from the greedy multinationals). This game will continue until the economy is wrecked.

_hm
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_hm   4/5/2011 9:15:55 PM
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You may look it from Pareto Principle of 80-20 rule. 80% may not be effective enginners. But remaining 20%, may be as effective as engineers from other part of the world.

Bronx68
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Bronx68   4/5/2011 8:55:17 PM
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Wake up people we have lost most of our high tech jobs to other countries. These jobs will move to where products are manufactured. Connecticut has lost most of its high tech jobs and is replacing them with restaurant help, medical and low paid service jobs.

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