If you guys haven't seen it yet, the results are out (link below), and I adopted Glen's great suggestion (above) by opening it up to a discussion of whether you're experienced impediments to hiring or advancement because of your age.
Your article note "(on average you work for four organizations in your career)" is so true - expect to get laid off an average of 4 times in your career. Each time it becomes harder and harder to find a new job. And after the 4th time you are simply "too old" for anyone but Wallymart.
Glen, I would absolutely love to start that discussion. Recall that "happiness survey?" Fully 10 percent of the engineers with more than 20 years experience either are or have been recently out of work for more than two years. So there's one data point about impediments to finding employment with years of experience.
Shall we start the conversation as a blog or a message board? Any preferences?
Thanks for the suggestion, Glen!
It's nice to have that luxury. Try being 54. Your choices narrow dramatically.
However, a job that sucks is probably better than no job at all. My job does suck - a bit - but the conditions are good, so I reckon I'm probably pretty lucky...
MY job did not suck. I just needed several choices of employers so I could fire the boss when THEY made the job suck. Without that simple escape mechanism, most jobs will go into a death spiral resulting in a job that sucks.
I think "Undercover Boss" is going to change a lot of things!!
But I would still be honest with anyone who asked. My employer IS good in respect of pay and conditions. And the guys I work with are fine. The problem is with Middle management.
My employer is fond of acronyms for everything so I coined my own - PSMs - Pig Stupid Managers. When anyone asks why things are the way they are, I say "Ah - it's the PSMs." What's a PSM??" they ask.....
Too often it is crappy managers in other departments that one does not meet during the interviews. As for talking to the future co-workers, they may not be entirely truthful if they suspect the interviewee is a possible spy for management. (ie the TV show "Undercover Boss")
I remember a telephone conference meeting in which a lead manager was in another city and was head of the mechanical design team. He was not my boss, but he was hated by all the local mechanical engineers and most of the electronic engineers. He was so obnoxious and insulting that the entire mechanical design team walked out of the meeting en mass, the remaining electrical engineers in the room had to tell this manager that the desertion had happened when he no longer got responses from his underlings.
Then there is the problem of getting new managers when starting new projects, can't help that. One of the these types was determined that even though engineering was way behind, the "Preliminary Release" milestone meeting was going to occur on schedule. BOMs and schematics and pcb layouts were all incomplete, but the almighty Schedule would be met! No missed milestones on HIS watch!
The invitations went out to production, purchasing, marketing etc. The day of the big meeting the manager called in "sick" and dumped the meeting chair on a colleague. This poor guy had to take the wrath when the other attendees realized that the design was in no shape for preliminary release. But hey, the meeting took place on schedule!
Don't know if that manager got chewed out or not, but he was later included in the first wave of layoffs...
The lighting does not have to be bright when working at computers. One company had installed all new indirect lighting. Lights could be turned on/off from your computer.
this was at company with ~1500 employees at this location. The company estimated the systems would pay for iteslf in 2.5 years. Also today is Earth Day think of less pollution, imported oil, etc.
Lobby management on this.
I also worked at one place, and room was almost a darkroom and all the engineers loved it.
Bright lights make people more aggressive.
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