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re: China startup rolls 'unified' Android processor
old account Frank Eory   6/9/2011 11:31:55 PM
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Sounds like they have a very impressive engineering team, but wow do they have an uphill battle in the market! And 65 nm is fine for a test chip to have something to play with, but even being based in China, there is no way they will be able to compete on price at that node.

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bikebivvy   6/9/2011 10:19:30 PM
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Simply not true. As Pizmek said, none of the apps run on arm, it is all java based. So it looks like this is a very nice idea indeed, as all games etc should run on it, but faster, cheaper and using less power. ARM will have to come up with something similar and soon.

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bikebivvy   6/9/2011 9:55:36 PM
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Surely the software houses don't need to adopt it, they already do. It will run all android apps without alteration. They are writing a compiler because a big part of android is coded in C++. Sounds an exciting project, esp. for hardware engineers and compiler guys, to try to make it as efficient as possible. Android phones are all about cost - so it it has every chance of doing very well indeed I would say. Android apps are coded in Java, so Android programmers will not need to touch this chip, or the ARM for that matter.

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przemek   6/9/2011 9:07:24 PM
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@DCschmidt71: Android is designed on a Java virtual machine, so android apps should port easily. In fact I always wondered why one of x86 vendors didn't make a droid (based on Atom or VIA/centaur)---the only reason I could come up with is that they aren't competitive on a combination of price and low power. I have actually heard from VIA that they aren't interested in low price points. A new Chinese entrant with low fixed costs could provide a challenge to everybody including ARM---of course provided that they can be similarly competitive on the rest of the system (peripherals, memory, screen).

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przemek   6/9/2011 9:03:58 PM
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@DCschmidt71: Android is designed on a Java virtual machine, so android apps should port easily. In fact I always wondered why one of x86 vendors didn't make a droid (based on Atom or VIA/centaur)---the only reason I could come up with is that they aren't competitive on a combination of price and low power. I have actually heard from VIA that they aren't interested in low price points.

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przemek   6/9/2011 9:01:30 PM
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@DCschmidt71: Android is designed on a Java virtual machine, so android apps should port easily. In fact I always wondered why one of x86 vendors didn't make a droid (based on Atom or VIA/centaur)---the only reason I could come up with is that they aren't competitive on a combination of price and low power. I have actually heard from VIA that they aren't interested in low price points.

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Code Monkey   6/9/2011 8:02:56 PM
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They could emulate the ARM ISA and handle API calls natively.

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DCSchmidt71   6/9/2011 7:27:56 PM
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What makes the Android market work is applications that run on ARM. Is this CPU going to be ARM-compatible? If not, it will be a captive application market, and consumers will shun it.

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dirk.bruere   6/9/2011 7:13:44 PM
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Looks like Linux has finally arrived

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Peter Clarke   6/9/2011 8:58:31 AM
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@Neo1 I just wanted to reiterate that this is NOT a GPU and CPU in a single core. It is a single ISA that handles both logic processing and graphics rendering. As to the power-performance-cost benefits, these will be discussed a little further in a EE Times Confidential article. As to whether they are a enough to make customers adopt it -- the market will decide.

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