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KB3001   6/11/2011 10:53:16 PM
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That, and also the business model of this new start-up. Would they adopt the ARM soft IP model? It does not look like it, in which case they have a mountain to climb.

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jaybus0   6/11/2011 11:58:39 AM
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I'm confused. Why is everyone calling it a "faster, better, cheaper, lower power" processor at this stage? What evidence is there that any of the above is true?

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wave.forest   6/11/2011 11:36:54 AM
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Good luck to ICube. I reckon its success chiefly depends on how they can sell the architecture to some big Chinese telecom OEM's, like Huawei and ZTE. If they can make it as a "State will", it definitely will succeed. Remember TD-CDMA and TD-LTE? All the major telecom OEM's are licking their ass.

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Peter Clarke   6/10/2011 3:07:22 PM
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They could but I believe they are going to offer their own C/C++ and graphics compilers

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Peter Clarke   6/10/2011 3:06:31 PM
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This CPU is "independent" so not an ARM ISA, it is claimed.

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KarlS   6/10/2011 1:22:00 PM
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It may not be necessary to even use the byte code -- parse the source then design hardware that evaluates the if clauses and does the appropriate assignments. I have done it for C statements. Also, using the byte code pretty much is done by a JIT compiler at run time so why can't they write a new JIT for their architecture and use existing compilers?

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Peter Clarke   6/10/2011 11:51:41 AM
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@jelvidge As mentioned above, a more detailed article is slated for the next edition of EE Times Confidential.

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Les_Slater   6/10/2011 9:19:55 AM
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I don't think marketing is such a serious issue here. The primary issue is the competency of the team behind this project and the supporting infrastructure available to them in China. I said earlier however that economic and political issues were part of the equation. In that respect it might be worthwhile reviewing Andy Grove's take on the subject: http://www.citizenstrade.org/ctc/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/20100701_howtomakeanamericanjob_bloombergopinion.pdf

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abraxalito   6/10/2011 9:00:39 AM
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Not only that, but because existing architectures are indeed well established they need to show a compelling benefit to dislodge them. A few tens of percentage points will not suffice. Grove's Law would postulate they'd need around 10-fold improvement to disrupt the incumbents.

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jelvidge   6/10/2011 7:15:27 AM
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"ICube claims ... power-efficiency and cost-efficiency advantages over the established architectures". This is easy to claim but requires data to substantiate. I will, as the saying goes, believe it when I see it. (And I don't just mean the PowerPoint!)

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