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KB3001
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re: Nvidia quit PC benchmarking consortium, too
KB3001   8/13/2011 11:15:24 AM
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Leave Benchmarks setting to independent Academics!

fdunn0
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re: Nvidia quit PC benchmarking consortium, too
fdunn0   6/28/2011 11:31:43 PM
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SysMark has ALWAYS been Intel extension specific and the results ALWAYS showed the same. Well I guess SysMark can differentiate Intel platforms but that is about it. SysMark has made it's product meaningless.

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re: Nvidia quit PC benchmarking consortium, too
goafrit   6/27/2011 2:48:25 AM
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Bapco will not get a high level competitor. This is too bad for them. Nvidia and AMD can make this work. But yet Intel is still in business. You cannot run away from Intel.

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re: Nvidia quit PC benchmarking consortium, too
kdboyce   6/26/2011 4:07:30 AM
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Assuming the AMD accusation bobbytsai refers to is correct, BAPCo brought this on themselves. It would be up to AMD to makes its case, but undoubtedly there is enough of a problem to cause Nvidia to bow out as well. A problem with ceding power to someone else is that the someone else no longer has to take you into consideration; they tend to do what they want and for the reasons they want. Independent arbitrators of performance of anything ONLY have value if they are truly independent. The biggest problem is proving the true independence. AMD would be in better control of their destiny by devising their own set of performance metrics which would show off their superiority (if any) and challenge anyone to prove otherwise.

bobbytsai
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re: Nvidia quit PC benchmarking consortium, too
bobbytsai   6/24/2011 5:08:22 PM
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"Previously AMD simply accused BAPCo of using Intel-optimized software (compilers and cpuid specific optimizations) within the test suite." Issues with fairness on just CPU benchmarking. A benchmark without OPENCL, CUDA, GPGPU, GPU accleration or DirectCompute for 2012 is pretty much useless. Flash, IE9, Windows 7, FF4, Adobe *. Its hard to find applications that don't use gpu acceleration.

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re: Nvidia quit PC benchmarking consortium, too
mcgrathdylan   6/24/2011 12:22:03 PM
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Here is BAPCo's description of SYSmark 2012. http://www.bapco.com/support/sysmark2012/sm2012_Help/license/benchmarking_rules.html As I understand it, it is a way to quantify how a system performs running a set of common softwae applications. I imagine there are plenty of things that participating companies may disagree about in such an undertaking. Obviously each company would push for things it thinks favors their hardware. Will the benchmark be meaningful without AMD and Nvidia? I really don't know how it will be received without their participation. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

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re: Nvidia quit PC benchmarking consortium, too
Neo10   6/24/2011 3:31:59 AM
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So, the arm twisting continues even in seemingly independent consortiums. What is not obvious here is what this SysMark2012 contains and why AMD is not happy about it. So if AMD and Nvidia exit the forum the becnmarks will not be any more meaningful, right?

mcgrathdylan
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re: Nvidia quit PC benchmarking consortium, too
mcgrathdylan   6/24/2011 3:15:50 AM
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Not sure if AMD and Nvidia will join forces, but it's certainly a possibility. Interesting how while AMD trumpeted it's departure and issued a statement in an attempt to discredit BAPCo, Nvidia quietly walked away and didn't want to discuss it.

Sanjib.A
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re: Nvidia quit PC benchmarking consortium, too
Sanjib.A   6/24/2011 2:56:49 AM
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So, it looks like Nvidia along with some others might join with AMD to get associated with BAPco's rival consortium. This increases my suspicion about the major rivals of Intel, such as AMD smelling biasness of BAPco towards Intel...possible?



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