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garydpdx   10/5/2011 3:08:12 PM
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This is a good point, given the recent discussion over the future of HP's PC division which dominates market share but comes with low margins. As a disclaimer, I'm a happy user of HP, Dell and Apple computers at work and at home.

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VK CA   10/5/2011 2:51:03 PM
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Rick. There is an aspect in your analysis that requires revision: "It's also worth noting Apple has not rolled out a low- or even middle-end smartphone to date." Apple has a very specific policy of marketing on older generation iPhones for mid/low end teir consumers. iPhone 4 will be sold for $99 and 3GS for $0 with 2-year contract. This is the most effective product tearing strategy I have ever seen. They have teared offering without extra cost of development cycle! I think Samsung and other serious players are giving a good fight to Apple, but as of now, the decline for Apple is behind the "reasonable prediction horizon". I think the bigger threat to Apple revenue can come from Amazon or Google if they succeed in content offering arena (music, movies,...).

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KB3001   10/5/2011 2:03:29 PM
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I agree. Every product has a window of opportunity and Apple could not have captured the smart phone market segment forever. They will use the profits they generated in this segment in making better products.

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any1   10/5/2011 1:14:21 PM
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As the smart phone market matures and consumers get more choices the market will become ever more fragmented. Apple is perhaps following the best path for them by staying at high end. Market share is not everything. In fact it could have the beneficial affect of giving the Apple brand even more cachet as iphones become less common.

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Kinnar   10/5/2011 11:12:01 AM
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As the android will become driver friendly with most of the chip-set presently available for Chinese phones, this figures will drastically change compared to what we are seeing today.

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yalanand   10/5/2011 8:49:49 AM
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@Rick I totally agree with your analysis. I too feel this is the beginning of the end for Apple. I think this is a great oppurtunity for Android manufacturers to grab the market share from Apple. Infact investors too think the same, that is we saw Samsung, HTC, Motorola shares rise on tuesday.

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rick merritt   10/5/2011 5:42:15 AM
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I'd like to hear what people think about the iPhone 4S and the direction for smartphones in the next year.

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Patk0317   10/5/2011 4:07:39 AM
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"Other" has always been a bigger market share than Apple's. The real question is what GM does "other" get versus Apple. Apple makes more profit, with less market share.

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PJames   10/5/2011 12:03:46 AM
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Undoubtedly they will be selling them as fast as they can build them. Not a bad problem to have.

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LiketoBike   10/4/2011 11:38:11 PM
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Very interesting points indeed. Are you successful "enough" if you are wallowing in money? Wall Street usually says "no", prompting the view that they are somewhat divorced from reality...

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