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chipmonk0
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re: Time to play hard ball on tech manufacturing
chipmonk0   1/27/2012 5:56:51 PM
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For the last quarter century Opinion makers, Academics & Lawmakers in the US have shilled for outsourcing to China because they were fed the scraps off the mega-billions that the Banks and MNCs made by shifting manufacturing to China. The consumers here too are at fault, because just like the Financiers and Management in Anglo - Zionist dominated economies, they too do not mind enjoying the fruits of Slave Labor. One hundred and fifty years after the Civil War, the US economy, when you scratch beneath the surface, still prefers Slave Labor. The debacle of WW II forced W. Europe and Japan to reform their evil ways. But since the English-speaking world apparently won the Cold War, there has been a recidivism of the same old Piracy in the name of Free market. Except that this time the "Lords of the Universe" have overplayed their hands by cosying up to Communist / neo-Imperialist China with its limitless supply of cheap and regimented labor. What the "sages" of Cambridge (MA) and the buccaneers of Wall St. had failed to factor in was that China was almost the same size of the US and unlike much smaller Japan, it is armed with Nukes pointed across the Pacific and uses them to commit its own piracies ( IP theft being just a part of that ). Though finally the penny seems to have dropped, these worthies are still pushing their pro-outsourcing pabulum and sparing no effort to pull the wool over the public and get one of their "man" into the WH.

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re: Time to play hard ball on tech manufacturing
rick merritt   1/27/2012 5:46:52 PM
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In case "China Blue" has not already been mentioned here, it's a great PBS documentary on low cost labor in China focused on the clothing industry, but echoing the issues in electronics. See http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/chinablue/film.html

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re: Time to play hard ball on tech manufacturing
rick merritt   1/27/2012 5:36:37 PM
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That's great real-world perspective from the field!

ChrisGar
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ChrisGar   1/27/2012 4:21:07 PM
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“You could say, as many do, that shipping jobs overseas is no big deal because the high-value work—and much of the profits—remain in the US That may well be so. But what kind of a society are we going to have if it consists of highly paid people doing high-value-added work—and masses of unemployed?” ... Andy Grove

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Tombo0   1/27/2012 4:16:54 PM
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Maybe I've become too jaded but why are the nets at Foxconn a negative?? When you put 420000 or so humans together, you're gonna get some unstable ones. Why are there no nets at the Golden Gate bridge??

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george.leopold   1/27/2012 4:00:36 PM
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Reader Jeff Lawton writes: Regarding the iPhone and its brethren, it's kind of interesting how all the investment community wants to invest in high tech companies that make ASICs...so long as you redefine that acronym to mean "Apple-specific integrated circuits"! Maybe the new definition will kind of stick, what do you think?

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Winston2010   1/27/2012 3:12:46 PM
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Except for the pending, serious repercussions of lending huge sums of money to grossly inefficient EU members, Germany is doing very well on the high tech export front, thank you. That small country exports more annually than the US. Why? Because they have a coherent national trade policy. Allowing corporations to play the (effectively) slave labor wage, zero environmental law arbitrage by exporting jobs to countries with 3rd world policies in those areas is a losing game for developed nations in the long run. A nation cannot forever import manufactured goods and export mostly paper money because it laid its labor bare to competition with countries that dump highly toxic substances into the air and rivers and treat their labor force as totalitarian governments are inclined to.

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Kinnar   1/27/2012 8:42:12 AM
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The short and simple story is what ever the amount you are dependent on others you will have to pay for it, what ever is the case. The world has become completely dependent on China for the manufacturing their devices/systems/machines. So they will have to pay China. The situation has raised upto a level if someone from the developed country wants to become self dependent in terms of assembling and manufacturing completely it will become out of competition.

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Hans Cho   1/27/2012 7:48:49 AM
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People do want to live and work in the US if positions (and visas) are available. I have worked in Korea, where a lot of semiconductors are manufactured. Lots of skilled scientists engineers here would take less pay to be able to work in the US. Some people leave their families in the US, and support them with their meager earnings, so their kids don't have to suffer through the exam mill that is the Korean school system. I would imagine it is the same in China. A lot of these people were educated in the US. You know what the problem is? The US spends all this mooney (DARPA grants, TA positions) training these people, then refuses to let them stay! They could have been productive Americans, but we wouldn't let them. So, they go home, and start up and work for companies that compete with companies in the US, all with expertise they got in US institutions. All the talent (if you've been to engineering grad schools in the US, you know what the proportion of Asians is) goes back to Asia, so Microsoft, Intel, and HP follow them over, too. How is it that we can't get a sensible visa program for engineers and scientists?

Bill.Wilkes
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Bill.Wilkes   1/27/2012 6:46:12 AM
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In a way, the problem is self correcting. If unemployment and lower wages persist in the US, fewer people will be able to afford the latest consumer electronics. Even members of the 1% don't need more than 1 or 2 iPhones. It probably wouldn't take too much of an improvement of the economy to generate a workers shortage. At that time, on the job training will become the norm.

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