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re: Magma's Madhavan won't join Synopsys
DrFPGA   2/23/2012 4:43:26 AM
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Any thoughts on who else will leave Magma? Is there still space in this market for a successful start-up?

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eewiz   2/23/2012 5:27:48 AM
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Even if there is space, Synopsys wud have asked Madhavan, not to do another startup for a few years.

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mcgrathdylan   2/23/2012 6:25:33 AM
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I am sure that there was a non-compete agreement. I have a feeling Rajeev's next move is going to be something a little bit outside the box of what he has done so far. Kind of a Joe Costello-like maneuver. Don't know why. It's just a hunch.

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lcovey   2/23/2012 3:55:25 PM
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Rajeev is going to want to take time off to spend with family. He's sacrificed a great deal of that kind of time for Magma and for Ambit. But a non-compete clause doesn't preclude him from angel investment. This is going to release a lot of investment funds for EDA. http://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-41831/l/magma-acquisition-will-light-a-fire-under-the-eda-industry

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KB3001   2/23/2012 8:36:55 AM
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In theory, there is ample scope, yes, as I do not believe the levels of innovation in EDA have been nearly high enough in the last decade or so. In practice, I am not sure the traditional EDA company business model is exciting enough for investors. Making money out of software alone is very difficult.

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elctrnx_lyf   2/23/2012 4:54:49 PM
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I wonder where Madhavan will be moving. Definitely there will be huge demand for this candidate from other EDA companies.

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mcgrathdylan   2/23/2012 7:07:22 PM
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I wonder about that. Sure, in theory, I am sure a lot of companies would like to add Rajeev to their payroll. But Rajeev has been a CEO for more than 10 years. I don't see him becoming VP of marketing for another company. This is why, even if all the stuff about de Geus and Rajeev not getting along is not true, there is basically no room for him at Synopsys. They already have a CEO. Ditto Mentor. Now Cadence, if you believe the talk about Lip Bu Tan looking to replace himself and go back to being a VC and board member, that might be interesting. But it's difficult to see Rajeev heading Cadence, I guess in part because he has always been the little guy fighting against the big guys. And anyway, as mentioned above, there almost certainly is a non-compete agreement, so none of those scenarios can play out anytime soon.

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Kinnar   2/23/2012 7:31:53 PM
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It is a good decision from Madhvan, as it do not look ethical professional behave to fight with someone for years and then start working with them. And if someone does that then he will be working against his sayings.

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mcgrathdylan   2/23/2012 9:53:45 PM
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Update- I just spoke with Aart de Geus and will be updating this story to reflect his comments. But the gist of it is: 1) Madhavan did not sign a non-compete agreement, after all. According to de Geus, there is no need for one. "Good executives don't sell a company and then immediately do something that would be a negative to that company." Translation, having sold his company, Madhavan is not going to go out and try to compete with what de Geus called "his family." De Geus also suggested, as I did above, that Madhavan's next venture might well be something outside of EDA. 2) De Geus also said that, contrary to popular belief, there is no ill will between he and Rajeev. He characterized their relationship as collegial. "We were competitors, but that doesn't mean that competitors can't have a high degree of mutual respect for one another." De Geus also praised Madhavan's handling of the situation since the announcement of that definitive agreement that Synopsys would acquire Magma. A lot of people will probably characterize these comments as de Geus putting a nice spin on the relationship between the two men, but my honest opinion is that de Geus was speaking openly and honestly. He could have simply answered my questions about the non compete agreement and said nothing more, but he seemed bothered by the way the relationship between he and Madhavan is often characterized. Just my two cents...take it for what it's worth.

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docdivakar   2/24/2012 8:10:52 PM
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Dylan, that is saying a lot from the Synopsys chief's side! IMHO, the EDA industry is probably better served with Rajeev pursuing another startup venture. MP Divakar

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nicolas.mokhoff   2/24/2012 8:29:41 PM
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I agree with you Dylan. More than that, I would characterize the two men, DeGeus and Madhavan, as friendly rivals in a very competitive tough slug-it-out industry. The complexity of chip design and the challenges of fine-tuning the design tools calls for cool decisions, even when it brings in the lawyers to uphold what you consider your IP crown jewels. If DeGeus is sometimes characterized as the renaissance man, Madhavan could be labeled as the opportunist. When I was covering the design world I sat to the table with both, individually. Both impressed me as CEOs I would respect.

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nicolas.mokhoff   2/24/2012 8:30:35 PM
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just to back up my characterisitcs, take a look at this profile: http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Tech-a-tete/entry/rajeev-madhavan-kochi-comics-to-california-chips

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Neo10   2/24/2012 2:01:19 AM
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Magma was eyed by Mentor many years back when they were still a fledgeling but they for some reason decided otherwise. Is there room particularly for startup EDA companies thriving and growing with these 3 big bears around? I guess their business model is kind of ancient which doesnt leave them much room to do sometihng big. They have unwittingly tied themselves to a rock which keeps them safe but they go no further.

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Tarraaque72   2/24/2012 9:13:05 AM
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If your company is public than anybody with enough $cash can buy it, even one mad Arab Sheikh can put the dollars on table and turn Synopsys into Oil company. So may be the solution is not being presented on Nasdaq???!!

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mcgrathdylan   2/24/2012 3:57:15 PM
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ATarraaque72- Sure, any company is for sale in a free market. But I am not sure I understand the relevance. I am fairly certain that Rajeev and anyone else who had stake in Magma were very happy with the outcome here. For reasons stated by Neo1 and others above, acquisition is the only realistic best case scenario for an EDA company outside of "the big three."

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linpaws   2/24/2012 8:18:07 AM
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If you look at the way Rajeev ran Magma, there's little chance any other EDA company will be inviting him. Sure he was liked by the customers for that very reason...cheap licensing and "tweakability" for those who felt "EDA tools providing out-of-the-box solution" is a myth.

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Youself   2/24/2012 8:05:43 PM
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Rajeev M is an aggressive and tough entrepreneur... he won't be sitting at home for long!

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MikeSantarini   2/24/2012 10:40:13 PM
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Was Magma ever profitable and if so how many quarters was it profitable? GAAP vs non-GAAP?



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