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jimfordbroadcom
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re: End times for industry cooperation?
jimfordbroadcom   4/9/2012 9:42:27 PM
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@Bruzzer, what the #@$%& did you just say (twice)? Between the choppy, headline-like sentences and the jargon (e.g. "So long as Intel does not anoint, step on, infringe, limit, restrain, shift revenue among those who invest organically on best practices to compete there; ...monitor INTEL as process saturates to new competitive potentials, etc.") I can't figure out what you're trying desperately to say! WTF?

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re: End times for industry cooperation?
Robotics Developer   3/7/2012 6:20:16 PM
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I can't help but wonder if the increasing number of patent lawsuits will dampen or kill off cooperation between competitors. Given the trend towards litigation as a means of protecting market share and feature sets, I imagine that the joint effort needed for standards will be hurt by company self interest. I remember long ago, a comment made by an older (and wiser) co-worker about large companies loading up standards groups with an eye towards driving the "standard" to fit their needs. I hope that the market will recognize and address these pressures so as to preserve the ability to collaborate.

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re: End times for industry cooperation?
Bruzzer   3/7/2012 8:06:11 AM
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AMD & Intel pull data? AMD losing share blowing antitrust case. Knows Intel market rigging and model for determining supply into future time. Intel’s gaining share. Does not want to attract attention surpassing 81% including embedded. Last time I observed such silencing 1989. Computer Supplier’s ad spend went dark in CRN. Right before Intel Inside morphed into metered price discrimination. Intel expansion toward foundry seems another reason likely urgent. Discontinuous memory innovation is a concern. Micron is a more efficient fabricator. Yet this leading memory, materials, fabrication aspect at inflection of physics goes beyond Micron. Some picked up WSTS to project Intel revenue; since 1997. SEC is investigating use of analytics. Intel supply data is used for projecting procurement of product routes for margin values into future time. So at inflection point in physics why doesn’t Intel want to report data? Masking data makes Intel hard to see. Except for those who own a pair of special glasses which is the quantitative model. Not having WSTS data will not stop savvy QUANTA players on their investment in Intel analytics. Intel foundry targets a physical space others have been competing at for a long time. For Intel to leap frog on 20 years monopolization speaks poorly for industrial social values and democratic capitalism. I'm for Intel expanding their business. So long as Intel does not anoint, step on, infringe, limit, restrain, shift revenue among those who invest organically on best practices to compete there. So the big challenge is not AMD and Intel report to WSTS, but defining how to govern, regulate command, control, monitor INTEL as process saturates to new competitive potentials. Intel strategy is to push through molecular at process saturation so they own quantum on long time monopoly gaming. That can't happen. It would destroy what's meant to come naturally. Mike Bruzzone

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re: End times for industry cooperation?
Bruzzer   3/7/2012 8:04:28 AM
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AMD & Intel pull data? AMD losing share blowing antitrust case. Knows Intel market rigging and model for determining supply into future time. Intel’s gaining share. Does not want to attract attention surpassing 81% including embedded. Last time I observed such silencing 1989. Computer Supplier’s ad spend went dark in CRN. Right before Intel Inside morphed into metered price discrimination. Intel expansion toward foundry seems another reason likely urgent. Discontinuous memory innovation is a concern. Micron is a more efficient fabricator. Yet this leading memory, materials, fabrication aspect at inflection of physics goes beyond Micron. Some picked up WSTS to project Intel revenue; since 1997. SEC is investigating use of analytics. Intel supply data is used for projecting procurement of product routes for margin values into future time. So at inflection point in physics why doesn’t Intel want to report data? Masking data makes Intel hard to see. Except for those who own a pair of special glasses which is the quantitative model. Not having WSTS data will not stop savvy QUANTA players on their investment in Intel analytics. Intel foundry targets a physical space others have been competing at for a long time. For Intel to leap frog on 20 years monopolization speaks poorly for industrial social values and democratic capitalism. I'm for Intel expanding their business. So long as Intel does not anoint, step on, infringe, limit, restrain, shift revenue among those who invest organically on best practices to compete there. So the big challenge is not AMD and Intel report to WSTS, but defining how to govern, regulate command, control, monitor INTEL as process saturates to new competitive potentials. Intel strategy is to push through molecular at process saturation so they own quantum on long time monopoly gaming. That can't happen. It would destroy what's meant to come naturally. Mike Bruzzone

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re: End times for industry cooperation?
KB3001   3/5/2012 4:40:32 PM
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I do not think it is the end of industry cooperation, Dylan. It is hopefully a short-lived period of reactionary attitudes and gestures. If data sharing is essentially useful to these companies in the long run, they will resurect it in some form or another in the future. Capitalism has this great ability to mend itself.

Mr. Contractor
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re: End times for industry cooperation?
Mr. Contractor   3/2/2012 3:32:26 AM
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the world is more competitive and companies must decide when and how much information is too much. Remember that Geraldo R went to war and said too much and when called on it he said " nobody hurt so no foul"... he should have been shot on the spot. loose lips sink more that ships and giving your competition your numbers is just plain stupid unless you want to drive the industry a particular direction.... data is everywhere but useless while information is tought to find and is true power



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