Breaking News
Comments
Oldest First | Newest First | Threaded View
Page 1 / 2   >   >>
JanineLove
User Rank
Blogger
re: Boosting long-haul microwave capacity with 1024 QAM
JanineLove   3/27/2012 1:46:39 PM
NO RATINGS
This struck me as a great intro to long haul microwave. It might be a great piece to share with the non-techies in your life to help explain what we do!

chanj0
User Rank
Manager
re: Boosting long-haul microwave capacity with 1024 QAM
chanj0   3/27/2012 9:22:25 PM
NO RATINGS
Excellent introductory article. The article mentioned about transmission distance. I am quite interested in knowing the theoretical maximum transmitted distance vs the modulation scheme.

old account Frank Eory
User Rank
Rookie
re: Boosting long-haul microwave capacity with 1024 QAM
old account Frank Eory   3/27/2012 10:45:56 PM
NO RATINGS
It would be interesting to know how often the system can actually operate in 1024 QAM mode in the real world. In a pure AWGN channel, 1024 QAM requires "only" four times as much power as 256 QAM at the same BER, but the situation quickly gets much worse in the presence of interference. The 25% capacity gain over 256 QAM is probably well worth the higher electric bill, but what is the effective capacity gain on a typical long-haul system? Can an operator expect to operate in 1024 QAM mode 25% of the time, 75% of the time, or what?

Traces
User Rank
Rookie
re: Boosting long-haul microwave capacity with 1024 QAM
Traces   3/28/2012 10:10:53 AM
NO RATINGS
Well, for sure, you can only run 1024 QAM on "bluebird days," but that's the point of adaptive modulation. Although having this sort capability that can only be used under the right conditions would seem like a huge waste in the consumer electronics space, infrastructure is a completely different space.

inductioner
User Rank
Rookie
re: Boosting long-haul microwave capacity with 1024 QAM
inductioner   3/28/2012 11:46:51 AM
NO RATINGS
It seems to me a waste of hardware upgrade. Performance requirements such as SNR for 1024-QAM is so high that it will appear to be defensless against channel fading, not to mention interferers. With adaptive modulation, it turns out to be running as 256-QAM at best as before. But it can be a good fit to wired channels such as cable, etc.

jlgarry
User Rank
Rookie
re: Boosting long-haul microwave capacity with 1024 QAM
jlgarry   3/28/2012 1:32:12 PM
NO RATINGS
As a page for engineers, an analysis of the SNR requirements would have been a helpful, yet easy, edition to make this article much more thorough.

Eirik
User Rank
Rookie
re: Boosting long-haul microwave capacity with 1024 QAM
Eirik   3/28/2012 1:35:20 PM
NO RATINGS
I guess it's important to understand that we are talking about carrier grade long haul (transport) links here. These links are dimensioned/engineered for very high availability, typically in the range of 99.995 or 99.999 % availability. This means less than half hour of outage per year! In order to achieve these figures the links have ample fading margin; typically in the range of 30 to 40 dB. Increasing modulation to 1024QAM reduces fading margin with 6dB compared to 256QAM. The effect on availability is just a factor of about 2 (doubling the outage), considering flat fading and interference free conditions. It has very limited effect on distance, as these links are not operating at the maximum possible distance anyway (due to needed fading margin). Interference can be an issue, again the sensitivity is increased by 6dB, so it needs to be factored into the availability calculations. Higher lever modulation does not change power consumption or other factors. So bottom line; as it uses adaptive modulation it offers 25% more capacity for 99.99% of the time. For the 0.01% of the time the links will scale down to lower modulation. We are running a trial link over a 65 km path in Western Norway, using the 6.7 GHz frequency band. This has been running so far for about 2 months without even once changing to lower modulation. I hope this has helped clarify the technology.

Eirik
User Rank
Rookie
re: Boosting long-haul microwave capacity with 1024 QAM
Eirik   3/28/2012 1:45:04 PM
NO RATINGS
See comment above. This is real and in live operation. I agree that SNR requirements are more stringent but in real figures it changes SNR requirements from about 24 to 30 dB, a 6 dB difference.

markr1
User Rank
Rookie
re: Boosting long-haul microwave capacity with 1024 QAM
markr1   3/28/2012 4:00:04 PM
NO RATINGS
Thanks for the interesting article. I'd like to know more about the additional complexity and cost needed to increase the throughput. It seems like you will definitely need more linear components, lower phase noise and maybe more DSP. Does the extra cost scale with the extra throughput? Or does it cost more than 1.25x to get 1.25x data throughput?

sierra tango
User Rank
Rookie
re: Boosting long-haul microwave capacity with 1024 QAM
sierra tango   3/28/2012 5:59:18 PM
NO RATINGS
great intro article....

Page 1 / 2   >   >>


Flash Poll
EE Life
Frankenstein's Fix, Teardowns, Sideshows, Design Contests, Reader Content & More
Rishabh N. Mahajani, High School Senior and Future Engineer

Future Engineers: Don’t 'Trip Up' on Your College Road Trip
Rishabh N. Mahajani, High School Senior and Future Engineer
Post a comment
A future engineer shares his impressions of a recent tour of top schools and offers advice on making the most of the time-honored tradition of the college road trip.

Max Maxfield

Juggling a Cornucopia of Projects
Max Maxfield
2 comments
I feel like I'm juggling a lot of hobby projects at the moment. The problem is that I can't juggle. Actually, that's not strictly true -- I can juggle ten fine china dinner plates, but ...

Larry Desjardin

Engineers Should Study Finance: 5 Reasons Why
Larry Desjardin
28 comments
I'm a big proponent of engineers learning financial basics. Why? Because engineers are making decisions all the time, in multiple ways. Having a good financial understanding guides these ...

Karen Field

July Cartoon Caption Contest: Let's Talk Some Trash
Karen Field
127 comments
Steve Jobs allegedly got his start by dumpster diving with the Computer Club at Homestead High in the early 1970s.

Top Comments of the Week
Like Us on Facebook
EE Times on Twitter
EE Times Twitter Feed

Datasheets.com Parts Search

185 million searchable parts
(please enter a part number or hit search to begin)