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nicu_p
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re: 2D vs. 2.5D vs. 3D ICs 101
nicu_p   4/9/2012 6:31:54 PM
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Very good 101 on the subject, thanks!

Max The Magnificent
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re: 2D vs. 2.5D vs. 3D ICs 101
Max The Magnificent   4/9/2012 7:40:20 PM
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Actually, thanks to you for taking the time to comment -- I spent a lot of my Sunday writing this, so it's really nice to know that someone took the time to read it (grin)

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re: 2D vs. 2.5D vs. 3D ICs 101
MikeSantarini   4/9/2012 8:41:53 PM
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Great piece, Max. I think this is truly a fascinating technology that can certainly benefit by more tutorial information like you have provided. In fact, it seems that above and beyond how it differs from SiP and MCMs, a lot of folks seem to get 2.5D and 3D IC stacking confused with what was traditionally called finfet technology but has been recently rebranded seemingly be Intel as "tri-gate" or "multigate" transistor technology. This of course could get even more confusing if and when folks actually start doing 3D stacking with finfet based devices. Cheers, Mike

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re: 2D vs. 2.5D vs. 3D ICs 101
Max The Magnificent   4/9/2012 9:02:15 PM
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Arrggghhh -- now I'm kicking myself that I didn't mention this ... there's always something more, isn't there?

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re: 2D vs. 2.5D vs. 3D ICs 101
David Ashton   4/10/2012 5:35:53 AM
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Fascinating stuff and very good explanations - thanks Max.

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re: 2D vs. 2.5D vs. 3D ICs 101
Or_Bach   4/10/2012 7:29:18 AM
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Lets continue and detail that the 3D-IC space has two main type. The TSV base and the monolithic 3D. The TSV is in most cases stacking of wafer process independently, than one wafer is thin to about 50 micron and stack as a die or a wafer on top of another wafer, and than connected using TSV that are about 5 micron. While monolithic 3D will be about a fabricating additional layer of semiconductor of 100nm on top of previous processed wafer and continue the processing of transistors and interconnects. The monolithic 3D would provide 10,000x higher vertical connections than TSV. We can find more information on some monolithic 3D flow in http://www.monolithic3d.com

Max The Magnificent
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re: 2D vs. 2.5D vs. 3D ICs 101
Max The Magnificent   4/10/2012 12:42:36 PM
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Thanks David

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re: 2D vs. 2.5D vs. 3D ICs 101
Max The Magnificent   4/10/2012 12:50:19 PM
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I must admit that I forgot to mention the whole concept of monolithic 3D ICs. I understand the concept, but I'm not well aware as to the nitty-gritty details, including how usable it is.

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Iacapital   4/10/2012 5:58:29 PM
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How could I make you another Sunday to keep writing good stuff like this? Coffee, Tea , or Me? Sorry, the humor should stop by coffee, tea, or money, definitely Not Me! Jimmy

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re: 2D vs. 2.5D vs. 3D ICs 101
David Ashton   4/10/2012 8:52:27 PM
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One thing I would like, that you would probably do very well Max, is something on how FPGAs are programmed, say from a specific application idea through the verilog/VHDL (not sure if that's right) to the actual programming. Next time you have a spare sunday (or three...)???

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