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resistion
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re: DRAM, foundry logic in race to use EUV, says ASML
resistion   7/4/2012 2:37:20 PM
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The fact is, 20 nm has come to pass without EUV. And EUV is already too slow for 20 nm and below. http://www.electroiq.com/articles/sst/2012/06/euvl-workshop-focuses-on-source-power-timing.html

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re: DRAM, foundry logic in race to use EUV, says ASML
Diogenes53   7/4/2012 2:24:01 PM
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ASML is perfectly happy to sell two wildly profitable immersion tools for double patterning instead of one unprofitable jerryrigged, Rube Goldberg soft x-ray machine

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re: DRAM, foundry logic in race to use EUV, says ASML
Diogenes53   7/4/2012 2:22:20 PM
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The ONLY inevitabilities are death and taxes. I assure you EUV (x-ray!) is not inevitable.

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re: DRAM, foundry logic in race to use EUV, says ASML
MarineDir   6/11/2012 9:53:00 AM
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The industry will be waiting for the next big player for EUV manufacturers. The manufacturer that is able to produce EUV litho machines for the market will stand to get an early lead, an because the global demand will be met by them, they will gain a sizeable share in the market as well. This would be an interesting development to follow, and hopefully there will be more updates on this. Mary - http://www.jensenmarinedirect.com

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re: DRAM, foundry logic in race to use EUV, says ASML
Diogenes53   4/26/2012 1:44:24 AM
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This was from the same EE Times issue:Source problems cause EUV revenue delay, says ASML Peter Clarke 4/19/2012 8:14 AM EDT LONDON – Lithography equipment developer ASML Holding NV (Veldhoven, The Netherlands) has said that a delay in the availability of illumination power sources has prompted it to push out revenue recognition on the first two production EUV lithography machines, currently being assembled at the company's headquarters. Sound inevitable?

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re: DRAM, foundry logic in race to use EUV, says ASML
Diogenes53   4/26/2012 1:43:42 AM
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In this same issue of EE Times: Source problems cause EUV revenue delay, says ASML Peter Clarke 4/19/2012 8:14 AM EDT LONDON – Lithography equipment developer ASML Holding NV (Veldhoven, The Netherlands) has said that a delay in the availability of illumination power sources has prompted it to push out revenue recognition on the first two production EUV lithography machines, currently being assembled at the company's headquarters. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz........ the more things change.......

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re: DRAM, foundry logic in race to use EUV, says ASML
Diogenes53   4/26/2012 1:41:06 AM
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So it was believed at 65, 45, 32, 22, 14, and, now, 10nm. Inevitable at each node. Definition:unable to be avoided, evaded, or escaped; certain; necessary: an inevitable conclusion. 2. sure to occur, happen, or come; unalterable: The inevitable end of human life is death. Particularly as regards #2, is EUV as "inevitable" as death? If so, I now feel immortal!

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re: DRAM, foundry logic in race to use EUV, says ASML
Diogenes53   4/26/2012 1:36:43 AM
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Thank goodness the "race" to EUV, which started as a sprint (coming at 65nm), has "ended" in a marathon (1nm?). Sadly, for those users who invested their careers in EUV, it is more like SETI, the endless search for extraterrestrial life. It may happen, but not likely in our lifetime. Does Mr. Meurice care? Of course not. EUV/SXPL (yes, fans, it is STILL x-ray). As long as he can sell 2 immersion tools without meaningful competition, EUV remains a shell game.

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re: DRAM, foundry logic in race to use EUV, says ASML
resistion   4/22/2012 3:23:49 PM
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I think now a problem is EUV cannot be superior for more than one or two nodes over the existing lithography. That may not be enough to justify. Also the issues are not monitored completely enough. Besides source power, how about defects, LER?

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re: DRAM, foundry logic in race to use EUV, says ASML
KB3001   4/22/2012 1:08:50 PM
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Is not it inevitable that EUV will eventually win at some lower process node?

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