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parkerm35
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parkerm35   4/23/2012 2:43:43 PM
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Intel HD3000 vs HD4000 around 60% increase, Llano vs Trinity around 56% increase, 4% gain??? "An analyst said the chips will narrow archrival AMD’s lead in graphics performance" hardly narrowed anything really! Mouth open and tongue moves, no thought.

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Mark1980   4/23/2012 6:18:04 PM
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ha-ha .. HD4000 still can`t beat the old AMD chip, never-mind the new Trinity LOL... Journalism at its best! (There used to be a time when questioning/correcting things were priority)

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vdara0   4/23/2012 7:29:30 PM
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Check this out, "Putting this all together, Intel will substantially narrow the gap with AMD for integrated graphics capabilities in 2012. Actual product level performance depends on pricing, binning and the market. For instance, Intel has an edge for very low power designs due to process technology. The 22nm FinFETs are exceptionally efficient at low voltage and it is likely that Ivy Bridge will match Trinity for 17W designs. At 25-35W for conventional notebooks, Intel should trail by around 20%, which is close enough to be competitive. Looking to desktops though, AMD will have a substantial advantage and the performance gap may be much higher." http://www.realworldtech.com/page.cfm?ArticleID=RWT042212225031 Things do not look that rosy for AMD.

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parkerm35   4/23/2012 11:42:41 PM
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That article is based on one mans opinion! A quote, "likely that Ivy Bridge will match Trinity for 17W designs" and this is based on what evidence? AMD states that the 17w chip will be the same level performance as a 35w Llano A83500, so my guess is, that trinity at 17w will still be a good 30% faster (GPU) than the equivalent ivy bridge chip. Roll on HSA!

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Robotics Developer   4/23/2012 7:27:49 PM
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I would love to see benchmark comparisons between Intel and AMD. Any one know when this will happen? The article is interesting but does not have any hard facts just historical data. Well we will just have to wait, I guess.

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rick merritt   4/23/2012 10:31:50 PM
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We are a few weeks out from an AMD Trinity launch which will hopefully include those benchmarks.

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Les_Slater   4/23/2012 10:18:02 PM
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I was actually impressed with what Intel has done with Ivy GPU from reading David Kanter's article, linked by vdara above. The decision of what technology to include is quite complicated. The economics of real estate, power and risk are daunting. Intel, and the industry have much at stake.

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LarryM99   4/24/2012 2:24:08 AM
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My four-year old laptop just gave up the ghost. I will be looking at these very seriously. I suspect that the benchmark comparisons will be coming very quickly. Several of the PC enthusiast sites have been hinting that they have sample Ivy Bridge-based systems in hand and under test. Larry M.

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markhahn0   4/24/2012 4:57:34 AM
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"so-called ultrabooks" that "ape", Rick? not professional.

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rick merritt   4/24/2012 5:03:16 AM
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Indeed, better word choice is "imitate"

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elctrnx_lyf   4/24/2012 9:34:21 AM
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Intel is cruising ahead each and every day with their manufacturing process and IC design technology.

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selinz   4/26/2012 1:56:53 AM
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WRT the person requesting benchmarks, there are plenty available. You usually have to make a purchase to get baseline data, however. I have observed an increase in ~2X at system level about every 3 years. The generational increase seems to trump the within generation variation. Even the indiginous graphics (i.e. Intel HD3000)can now run CAD packages that used to require a special (read expensive) graphics card.

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Stephen_M   4/27/2012 8:30:46 PM
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At the high end, Intel is as far behind in GPU as AMD is behind in CPU. At the low end, you get what you pay for. Any improvement by Intel in graphics will narrow the gap. The gap is widening faster than Intel can narrow it. I postulate that Intel does not follow Moore's law in GPU performance while others have. If graphics ability is the light that shines, Intel is so far away that it is still in the dark.



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