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TFCSD
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re: Report reveals fake chips in U.S. military hardware
TFCSD   5/23/2012 10:06:20 PM
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BTW this is sarcasm for all you management types.

JLS
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re: Report reveals fake chips in U.S. military hardware
JLS   5/23/2012 10:05:59 PM
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What kind of idiot would by parts obtained from Hong Dark Electronic Trade for a military product in the first place? If parts are not obtained through authorized channels, what would you expect? People should go tho jail for things like this!

TFCSD
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re: Report reveals fake chips in U.S. military hardware
TFCSD   5/23/2012 10:05:01 PM
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So what if our planes fall out of the air or vital systems do not work. We saved a dollar by not using those expensive American workers (with big student loans)so it is worth every penny!

gmsamaras_eet
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gmsamaras_eet   5/23/2012 9:06:48 PM
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Put in the purchase and maintenance contracts that the contractors are responsible for replacement of counterfeit parts and recertification of any system (at their expense) they provide or maintain and you will find they adopt different management practices that will eliminate most of the problem. The remainder are probably criminal activities that need to be handled differently. GM Samaras. Pueblo, CO

Dave.Dykstra
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re: Report reveals fake chips in U.S. military hardware
Dave.Dykstra   5/23/2012 7:16:30 PM
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There are a number of ways to ensure that you are buying what you intended - some much more cost effective than others and some xthat can be implemented in some scenarios but not in others. Since military equipment is manufactured by private companies, there appears to be some need for more oversight of those suppliers - something that directly or indirectly adds cost, but either way we taxpayers wind up paying for it. But that appears to be a burden that we need to take on to help ensure safety of our military.

Bob @ JVD Inc.
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Bob @ JVD Inc.   5/23/2012 6:30:36 PM
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Global information company IHS was recently quoted as confirming that one out of every four counterfeit parts reported last year were for Analog ICs. How to Eliminate the Threat Posed by Counterfeit Analog Chips Analog ASICs are virtually immune to counterfeiting. With only one source and one customer for each chip, there is no avenue for the counterfeiter to insert himself into the supply chain. It is easy to account for every single device that gets manufactured. More importantly, reputable analog ASIC suppliers use respected and secure wafer fabrication sources which are physically located in nations that honor and respect the rule of law and protect Intellectual Property. Always insist on knowing where your silicon is being fabricated.

tkhorton
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re: Report reveals fake chips in U.S. military hardware
tkhorton   5/23/2012 6:29:57 PM
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Even though China is to blame, there is some personal responsibility when it comes to buying parts. Are these parts being sourced from distributors recommended by the product owner or are they sourced using the cheapest distributor? I believe that making sure these parts are bought from a dedicated distributor makes them harder to counterfeit and makes it easier for companies to hold someone responsible for loses. It may cost the company a little more, but one could think of it as paying for more peace of mind. PS: I'm not a salesperson, so these are just assumptions.

chanj0
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re: Report reveals fake chips in U.S. military hardware
chanj0   5/23/2012 5:49:27 PM
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The issues caused by counterfeit electronic components can be serious. Process to validate suppliers and contracted companies might be a way of avoiding counterfeit components. In addition, what would be the most effective way to ensure the quality of final goods from the buyers' side, i.e. military?

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