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Bert22306
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re: Update: Dragon docked to space station
Bert22306   6/6/2012 8:03:45 PM
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Maybe I should let this go, but ... Clearly, "someone" doesn't understand how a democracy works. We ARE the Congress. We MUST inform ourselves on matters that matter to us. We MUST communicate this to our representatives. Both as individuals, and as parts of larger organizations, with lobbying powers. The worst of all attitudes, in a democracy, is the complascent attitude that "they," in government, know better than we know, and that we need to shut off our brain and let them do the thinking for us.

C VanDorne
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re: Update: Dragon docked to space station
C VanDorne   6/6/2012 7:36:50 PM
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"Betrayed" and "cheated" are two words.

ibm221
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re: Update: Dragon docked to space station
ibm221   6/1/2012 1:24:28 AM
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ok, we can all stop here. we ain't congress man, talking from our cube without many info. have a nice day though, weekend as well...

Bert22306
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re: Update: Dragon docked to space station
Bert22306   6/1/2012 12:46:03 AM
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Astronauts will still be required, at least to some degree. It all depends on how we "commercialize" space. It seems to me that some human involvement in whatever space facilities will still be needed. And also if we want to send humans to Mars. My preference would have been to transition the shuttle mission exactly as is being done, but to then use NASA for more advanced space exploration. Like, new unmanned probes to Mars, at the very least, and to other planets and moons of planets. Possibly that manned mission to Mars. If this president doesn't feel the imperative to go on, that's okay too. We have an orderly transition of presiudents, and the current one cannot serve more than 4 more years. And people can certainly make their views known to their representatives in Congress, so this is not an issue. At worst, it delays progress by a few years.

ibm221
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re: Update: Dragon docked to space station
ibm221   6/1/2012 12:36:40 AM
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the point is Mr. Obama is someone who don't have much credit. imagine someone spent 10-20 years to be trained as an astronaut, what you expect him/her to do after layoff? work in a fitness center? Obama has cheated all the christians in US back in 2008, they realized they were just shamelessly cheated in 2012...

Bert22306
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re: Update: Dragon docked to space station
Bert22306   5/31/2012 8:05:43 PM
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And when PCs and word processor software were introduced, lots and lots of secretaries and graphics people lost their jobs too. When cars were introduced, lots of blacksmiths and horse handlers lost their jobs. When electric street lighting was introduced, lots of people who went around the city lighting gas lanterns lost their jobs. In spite of all of this, in the US anyway, unemployment during much of the previous administration was down below 4 percent, which is considered almost too low. Commercializing space has the potential for creating a huge number of new jobs. Many more than are now available, when space is only a high tech, high cost government R&D venture. It's absurd to think that we need to rely on government politicans to give us food and shelter. This shift in the space program is just another example of what a good economy is supposed to do, even IF the government is involved initially for the up front basic R&D effort. One can only hope that this nannie government mentality remains as foreign as possible in the American psyche. There's already too much of it around.

ibm221
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re: Update: Dragon docked to space station
ibm221   5/31/2012 8:17:04 AM
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take some time to read the CBS report below. you are taking this too lightly. grow up and learn to understand the real world.

ibm221
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re: Update: Dragon docked to space station
ibm221   5/31/2012 7:15:11 AM
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In 2010, President Obama cancelled Constellation and turned over development of a new spaceship to private enterprise. Then, Congress dealt another blow by cutting the funding for the Obama plan in half. At the very least it will be 5 years before America flies astronauts again. Now the workers with that expertise Mr. Obama referred to are setting course for Carole Bess. Carole Bess: And I've had several who've told me, "I was considering suicide before I came to you." Carole Bess is a bankruptcy attorney.

ibm221
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re: Update: Dragon docked to space station
ibm221   5/31/2012 7:13:20 AM
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quote: Mike Carpenter: Well, we were lied to when Obama came through, gave us a lotta hope and supposedly a lotta change. Well, I've got change in my pocket, but the hope is gone.

Bert22306
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re: Update: Dragon docked to space station
Bert22306   5/31/2012 7:03:18 AM
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Do you really think that educated people only have a chance at a single job? It's true that the economy went through a huge slump here, since 2008, and by the way that too was largely attributable to government meddling where it has no expertise (in the housing market). However that's hardly the norm. The whole point of SpaceX is to commericalize the space industry. You take the space industry from a very expensive, very exclusive government R&D program into something that can more directly benefit tyhe average person. How exactly we don't know yet. A vibrant economy is not created out of non-self-sustaining government make-work programs. Even those who hadn't figured this out were made aware of this, back around 1989-1992.

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