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george.leopold
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re: Four reasons why its 'game over' for foreign chip firms in China
george.leopold   6/7/2012 12:24:23 AM
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Thanks for the recommendation. I have another recommendation related to Chinese tech innovation: "The Run of the Red Queen" by Breznitz and Murphrees: http://www.amazon.com/Run-Red-Queen-Government-Globalization/dp/030015271X

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Chee Choy   6/6/2012 11:48:58 PM
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If you really read and understand the Communist China society, you will know the threat from China is a paper Tiger. The way of their thinking is just western known well communist policy, their people of doing things are half past the six, the only thing the full the Western people is their product features and trendy outlook, away from that their products are craps, the most unreliable do not work more than 3 months some failed after 1 weeks. These products are only meet their own people requirements. I sincerely hope the western people should be patient doing the way western mind and concept, it is the only way keep evolving and bring innovative products and benefit the whole world. You look at what they claim the world high speed train is a piece of copy cat and crash missing out the simple feature of crash avoidance sensor. What a laughing story !!!

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Mushroom in the dark   6/6/2012 11:20:53 PM
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I have to agree with both KB3001 and jj1234. The technology momentum is now there. No amount of embargo or isolationism will stop it. They already have all the ingredients of ANY tech industry, integration to what is required is just a matter of internally sharing their knowledge. Please note that China's drive is to be No. 1 and that will be attained by whatever means.

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TyR78   6/6/2012 10:08:03 PM
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It concerns me, and the US govt., and I hope our govt. will start paying even more attention and start up a plant to manufacture the ICs we need for critical systems, military, govt. records, anything that could impact our security and our military and make it all in house, at a trusted or even govt. controlled facility.

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TyR78   6/6/2012 10:05:47 PM
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That is dependant on the companies selling their products. If the manufacturer's name it is sold under demands quality it is available. If not, then they look at productivity, cheap prices and quantities they can pump out the door to meet demand, disregarding quality, as the seller is not demanding it.

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TyR78   6/6/2012 10:01:54 PM
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I agree. I work for a large company that still does most of the R&D in house, but we still manufacture many products in China. I have many opportunities to see the quality of products make in China as well as W. Europe, Mexico, India etc., and China is taking much more pride in producing quality products than in the past.

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TyR78   6/6/2012 9:58:49 PM
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And why not? The have practically unlimited slave labor. Who can compete, especially when they won't allow any non-Chinese companies compete with these Chinese companies.

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jj1234   6/6/2012 9:57:43 PM
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I donít think it will even work. Most research results, if not all, will eventually appear in peer-reviewed journals, accessible to everybody. Knowledge has no boundaries and benefits all human kind. Protection is required when there is business interest or the information is extremely sensitive for national defense. These cases normally donít apply to university level research. You can close the door and stop looking for the smart brains overall the world, but I donít think that will benefit America, or even slow down countries like China. What Stanford and MIT are doing is completely the opposite. They are publishing their video lectures, creating open course concept through Internet, trying to make their undergraduate level education accessible to the whole world. So basically, you donít even need to go to their campus to study and you can simply get the education from Internet, for free.

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jj1234   6/6/2012 9:55:34 PM
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This is not really open mind mentality, and I donít think it will even work. Most research results, if not all, will eventually appear in peer-reviewed journals, accessible to everybody. Knowledge has no boundaries and benefits all human kind. Protection is required when there is business interest or the information is extremely sensitive for national defense. These cases normally donít apply to university level research. You can close the door and stop looking for the smart brains overall the world, but I donít think that will benefit America, or even slow down countries like China. What Stanford and MIT are doing is completely the opposite. They are publishing their video lectures, creating open course concept through Internet, trying to make their undergraduate level education accessible to the whole world. So basically, you donít even need to go to their campus to study and you can simply get the education from Internet, for free.

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Adele.Hars   6/6/2012 9:50:31 PM
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And yet IBM is fabbing chips (in the US, one assumes) for RDA - see http://www.advancedsubstratenews.com/2011/09/rda-microelectronics-of-shanghai-developed-the-rdasw91/. Worth remembering that China represents a quarter of the world's population. It's much less of a monolith that we might think in the West. If you're interested in learning more about modern China, I highly recommend "What China Thinks" by Mark Leonard.

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