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re: Four reasons why its 'game over' for foreign chip firms in China
johnsolomon   6/7/2012 12:50:53 PM
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We live in a connected world. Evolution is the only thing that will matter. If man evolves and dinosaurs get extinct in this process. It is just a trivia. Isolation through protectionism will lead to creation of Darwinian creatures/systems/process which will forever have to remain on an island. China /India / Brazil question is irrelevant just like mammals and the dinosaurs. What has to seen is will the ecosystem evolve to a better state of things than the present? Which i feel it definitely will.The Ecosystem is driven by consumer demand , consumer values. If the consumer values are low performance , low quality, then the ecosystem will move towards the survival of entities specializing with such traits. If the consumers drives high performance, reliability and quality and innovation the ecosystem will move towards the survival of entities specializing in them. Whether the mutations occur once in a week or once in 3 months or once in 6 months or once in decade is irrelevant. What is important is quality of these mutations. Which can create tangible, clear cut diffentiation on which product lines {family lines} can be built. The question of will the ecosystem evolve in the favour of the dinosaurs or the mammals is irrelevant. Dinosaurs evolve to begin to fly and dominate the skies and mammals evolve to dominate the land. So live in the connected world of evolution.

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mmmmh   6/7/2012 9:17:19 AM
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Partially agree whilst the China case is different with Japan. Japanese 'Kawasaki' culture leads to Taguchi and numerous innovators. In modern China, it is hard to find an open-minded leader who is willing to get the long-term margin. In contrast most leaders’ families have immigrated overseas since they foresee the avalanche of that community. Please find the detail in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bo_Xilai

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Rodneyluo8   6/7/2012 6:19:22 AM
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man are u in china!

Rodneyluo8
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Rodneyluo8   6/7/2012 6:18:36 AM
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right agreeable

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Rodneyluo8   6/7/2012 6:13:56 AM
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fuck u man , WE have the smart p

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re: Four reasons why its 'game over' for foreign chip firms in China
Steven-x   6/7/2012 2:51:01 AM
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China can make good quality products, just look at Apple/Foxcom. Apple has even admitted at that quality level the cost difference between China and the US was nominal. The japan example is good. In the 60's a lot of US companies outsourced TV manufacturing to Japan. They later offer to design. By the 70's japan realized they could also market, and the US companies became redundant. No wonder US CEO's are "mining" their companies for everything they can.

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Steven-x   6/7/2012 2:45:46 AM
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Are they really "new" phones or are they just moving around the buttons?

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Steven-x   6/7/2012 2:43:37 AM
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"American students still consider business, medical and law schools as their first choice" Medical & law schools are another 3 years. Pretty much limited to CEO kids unless you want $200k student debt. Business majors are for dumb kids who can't do math, or want to party in college. Sometime I wish we would stop putting down STEM graduates. Our business have been suffering because of Harvard Business School graduates that started the outsourcing craze.

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cdhmanning   6/7/2012 2:34:53 AM
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Taking the cheap low margin end is always the easy entry into any business. From there it is a lot easier to work towards the higher margin end than it is for high-margin cultures (Intel etc) to move into low margin business. That's how the Japanese got into manufacturing. Anyone remembering Japanese products in the 1960s will think of toys that broke within a few days of purchase. From there Japan has worked towards being the quality and innovation leaders in many industries. There is absolutely nothing preventing China doing the same in any industry they choose to play in. Anybody that thinks the West has some special capability that China etc don't have is just being arrogant.

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Turkman   6/7/2012 1:43:22 AM
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According to Tai, China is not accepting lower margins. Net margin (the one that counts) is the same.

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