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Mxv
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re: Four reasons why its 'game over' for foreign chip firms in China
Mxv   6/8/2012 4:07:17 PM
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BTW, nothing against the Chinese people. They are hard working mostly decent people, but the govt is evil. Brutalizing it's citizens, killing Tibetans and other minorities, poisoning the environment (their own and neighboring countries). Supporting terrorists in Pakistan to destabilize India. The list goes on and on. This is not the work of some benevolent free market sponsor. I wish the Chinese people one thing -- freedom and democracy. Only then can they live up to their full potential.

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re: Four reasons why its 'game over' for foreign chip firms in China
Mxv   6/8/2012 4:02:43 PM
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LOL, Peter. Here's another joke - "Chinese R&D".

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re: Four reasons why its 'game over' for foreign chip firms in China
Mxv   6/8/2012 4:00:25 PM
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Chinese killed Americans in Korea in the 1950s, invaded Tibet in the 50s, invaded India in 1962, supplied Pakistan and North Korea with Nukes, had a border war with Vietnam in the 70s (which they lost badly), supplies the Burmese Junta, supplies every major terrorist group with cheap weapons. KB3001, you need to get your head out of your ...

Mxv
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re: Four reasons why its 'game over' for foreign chip firms in China
Mxv   6/8/2012 3:53:51 PM
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Great comment. Let me add one more thing. To really understand the Chinese govt, you must read Sun Tzu' 'Art of War'. It's very relevant to modern day events and how China is encircling the globe to master it's enemies. The Chinese govt officials still have a middle age mindset and a false impression that China was a once great nation that if it wasn't for the West (Opium wars) and Japan, would still be great. They are still suffering from PTSD from WWII when a tiny country like Japan conquered the Great China. (Not that the WWII Japanese weren't monsters themselves). To ensure this never happens again they are on a program to build up their military AND economy (lesson learned from USSR), energy supplies (friend to Iran and Venezuela), and raw materials (South America and Africa). Outsourced manufacturing is just a strategy in the bigger game.

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re: Four reasons why its 'game over' for foreign chip firms in China
chipmonk0   6/8/2012 3:53:51 PM
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Do you have any first hand experience in dealing with the Chinese in China ? I would suggest that till you get some business experience with them just stick to opining on EE design. It would also help your non - technical arguments here if you were to first get an unbiased education in history. FYI, it was not as simple as Renaissance started because Italians learned a lot from the Arabs as you have implied in your earlier post. The Arabs themelves learned a lot from the Greek and Byzantine civilizations - starting with how to build a Dome that forms the basis of all Mosques. In Mecca itself they did not know how to build a Dome, the evidence is the Cube shaped Kaabah. The Rennaissance in Italy was triggered mostly by the Christian refugees from Constantinople after the Moslem Turks captured it. The reason the Arabs and the Middle East in general have fallen behind is because they believe in their OWN LIES and still chop off the heads of those who question it. The Chinese are not much different - no matter how much they ape Western technology.

Mxv
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re: Four reasons why its 'game over' for foreign chip firms in China
Mxv   6/8/2012 3:37:21 PM
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Here, Here. Great comment Mike1234567. There is a definitely a plan behind this Chinese invasion of US universities. Some have labeled it "million grains of sand" approach to spying. Get a lot of spies to get little pieces of information and piece it together later.

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re: Four reasons why its 'game over' for foreign chip firms in China
zzacreek   6/8/2012 3:35:13 PM
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China has to open up the market more to more outside companies in order to become a leader in chip development or any development. Japan opened it's markets up to the outside world and Japan companies that made it ended up being some of the best in the world. China currently does not allow low cost electronics from countries like India. And china backs up a lot of its companies with government money. These two things will have to change as china labor cost more and more.

Mxv
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re: Four reasons why its 'game over' for foreign chip firms in China
Mxv   6/8/2012 3:31:25 PM
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Look. US students are not dumb. They see us engineers struggling to make a living -- always on the brink of being unemployed -- and they want to make more money and have some security. If you want to save this country, prevent massive layoffs and outsourcing jobs. It's that simple. You can't force people to become coal miners and you can't force them to be engineers.

Mxv
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re: Four reasons why its 'game over' for foreign chip firms in China
Mxv   6/8/2012 3:28:26 PM
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BS, many professors prefer immigrant grad students as they can make them work harder and complain less (and steal credit for their work -- the dirty little secret of university 'research'). This is training for their future H1 jobs. No wonder many foreign students want to go back to their home countries after gaining experience (and IP) -- they're tired of being second class citizens.

Mxv
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re: Four reasons why its 'game over' for foreign chip firms in China
Mxv   6/8/2012 3:23:47 PM
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So they copied a design perfectly. There's not much R&D involved in copying.

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