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re: Four reasons why its 'game over' for foreign chip firms in China
Simon7382   6/8/2012 10:57:42 PM
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You were lucky. I bough a couple of dozen LED bulbs from China. Some of them are working well, but about 15% were either dead on arrival or died within 2-3 months of use (instead of the advertized 20 years). The main problem about Chinese quality is that it is VERY dependent on the manufacturer and it is totally unpredictable and uneven.

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Simon7382   6/8/2012 10:53:44 PM
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Due to idiotic new purchasing rules in the military "to save on components" a lot of the IC-s etc., that are going into weapons today, are made in China (either legally or via fake products labeled as US designs, sold by criminal or clueless distributors). It is crazy and whoever made these purchasing rules know very little about the electronics industry and China, but this is how it is.

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Simon7382   6/8/2012 10:47:11 PM
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Whether you buy it or not it is a fact. A LOT of Chinese technology, especially military technology, has been stolen from the US. Throwing your hands up and saying that this is life, nothing can be done about it, is utterly irresponsible.

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Simon7382   6/8/2012 10:42:55 PM
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Exactly. I never buy any food products that had Chinese ingredients. There is no control or regulation worth anything over there. Not that the FDA is not very corrupt and incompetent but at least we have some minimal level of protection here. I am sure the Chinese will catch up and understand that poisoning people to increase profit is not really acceptable, but it will take time, maybe decades.

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Simon7382   6/8/2012 10:35:53 PM
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Same here. I stopped approving any purchase requests for HP products. Their quality is Chinese and their customer support is non-existent.

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microe   6/8/2012 9:48:14 PM
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Interesting discussion. People promoting hatred should be sent back to the two world war days to feel the pain. Enemy is sometimes created by your own due to ignorance and the lack of respect. The world is still enough for the human population. We should learn how to turn zero-sum to win-win.

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AliNS   6/8/2012 8:50:58 PM
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Strange, but I heard the same arguments 20 or so years ago about the Japanese chip companies, not only was it game over for the rest of us but Japan was going to take over the rest of the world. Granted, the Chinese doemstic market is potentially the largest and they can hold on a little while longer, but we shall see...

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Actaeon2   6/8/2012 8:09:10 PM
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This could be the most interesting and active thread ever. I'll pick back up on this when I get home. Thanks for an interesting topic and discussion.

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Actaeon2   6/8/2012 8:01:11 PM
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although Taiwanese, "MeanWell" is my favorite for the manufacturer of power supplies. Goofy name or what?

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KB3001   6/8/2012 4:16:43 PM
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I actually do have business experience in China, Chipmonk. I have no complaints: reasonable pricing and good quality. As for the rest, you comfirm what I said above at the beginning of your post, every civilisation learns from previous civilisations. The rest is the usual Xenophobia I came to expect from you by now :-)

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