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wilber_xbox
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re: ARM to intro engineer certification
wilber_xbox   7/25/2012 5:02:53 PM
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yeah, and it makes company known to the masses. I doubt whether such certification are really useful. Can't we include professional courses in the university study modules itself.

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etalaris   7/25/2012 2:09:18 PM
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I think this is a very bad thing for engineers. Now company HRs who have no idea what embedded systems programming is all about will start denying jobs to engineers with 20 years' embedded systems development in favor of a recent grad who studied for the ARM test because they have the piece of paper. Brilliant move by ARM, but a scheme that will ultimately, I suspect, will make us see lower quality code being produced "in the wild".

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KRagh   7/25/2012 1:53:20 PM
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For details on the Wireless certification by IEEE, please visit: www.ieee-wcet.org/ In response to comments by elektryk321, I would say many people have fallen pray to Cisco's advertising tactics. Cisco is not a wireless company and does not have the background to conduct wireless certification. One look at the syllabus by IEEE exam will con tests. One look at the IEEE site will convince any engineer what is needed (prep needed is quite extensive) since the exam includes latest topics. Unless one is a praciticing wireless engineer, it is hard to attempt this exam.

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krisi   7/25/2012 1:51:59 PM
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Good point @KRagh...I think certification should be left to left to IEEE or similar bodies that has no incentives to push certain technologies or products...so we need microprocessor certification program IEEE! Kris

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KRagh   7/25/2012 1:48:28 PM
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Far more neutral but good real test is the WCET conducted by the IEEE to certify wireless engineers. Cisco certification, which is a joke (does not need even a basic degree and is limited to Cisco products), has brought a bad rap to certification. The IEEE certification is conducted worldwide and expects a good background both in RF and EE. It covers both cellular and WiFi but quite well in depth.

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krisi   7/25/2012 1:44:51 PM
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I agree elektryk321, I doubt it is real locking too...but I can easily see why ARM would be trying, it is very tempting to corner the market...Cisco used to be dominant networking box maker, but even at its peak they had 10 or so competitors so being certified in Cisco gear had limited value...in microprocessor space there is only ARM, Intel and Mips so the market is more concentrated, it might be easier to pull certification trick...it will be interesting to see what Intel does, I am sure they are watching...Intel certification to follow? Kris

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elektryk321   7/25/2012 10:26:16 AM
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I doubt if it is real locking. I have passed some Cisco exams, but over the longer period this was a terrible mistake. They are overpriced and focused only to Cisco features with have very small connection to real problems in the network. I suspect those courses and exams will no make the enginner understand how to design and programm products. They will only teach some templates and thats all. Of course they can teach some specific naming convension or any other things that typical engineer is aware of.

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teddy_zhai   7/25/2012 9:39:29 AM
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Yes, I agree!

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Peter Clarke   7/25/2012 8:23:46 AM
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As far as I can tell there are no requirements for taking the tests....apart from a working credit card. Never-employed students can take the tests and are encouraged to do so. But you have to know the stuff to pass the test.

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krisi   7/25/2012 4:15:50 AM
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I dont think money is the issue Locking young engeers into arm is the goal Kris

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