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krisi
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re: Is Synopsys helping chip making return to its roots?
krisi   8/9/2012 4:19:11 PM
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Feels that way @KB3001...here is an interesting link on Makimoto's wave: http://www.professormemory.edn.com/blog/professor-memory-blog/makimoto%E2%80%99s-wave

KB3001
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re: Is Synopsys helping chip making return to its roots?
KB3001   8/5/2012 12:35:53 AM
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The cycle might take longer, Peter, but we will inevitably hit a standardisation phase. Look at how ARM and Co. are developing standards for server solutions, Android is becoming the dominant Mobile OS etc. Certainly it won't be like before where one technology or a few are standardised but it will be about system standardisation with a variety of nodes with standard interfaces.

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re: Is Synopsys helping chip making return to its roots?
mcgrathdylan   8/3/2012 6:08:21 PM
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I read this more as Synopsys aggregating EDA technology and segmenting it from its other business. That makes sense to me. As far as re-aggregating EDA within a large chip vendor, it's an interesting idea, but I don't believe we are close to that point. There are only a handful of chip companies that could realistically buy Synopsys, and I don't believe there is any real motivation for them to do so. When it gets to the point that only one or two firms are scaling to new nodes, then they might be forced to bring EDA in house.

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re: Is Synopsys helping chip making return to its roots?
Peter Clarke   8/3/2012 3:43:50 PM
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Makimoto's wave gained some credit ability for a while. But as time goes by it seems to me the wave has failed to repeat....the key transition was from building block components that were never application specific... To soc era where all components are app specific. Not just soc components. Even DRAM has become an app specific PC memory these days

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re: Is Synopsys helping chip making return to its roots?
KB3001   8/3/2012 3:20:45 PM
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Reminds me of Makimoto's wave (standardisation and customization alternate every ~10 years). There is a similar trend between disaggregation and reaggregation.

krisi
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re: Is Synopsys helping chip making return to its roots?
krisi   8/3/2012 2:41:07 PM
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As you say Peter there are fewer companies willing or able to buy state-of-the-art million dollar EDA tools..hence your revenue doesn't grow...you have to do something about it...consolidating R&D of various product lines makes sense, I think EDA companies traditionally have spent too much on R&D % wise...Kris



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