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JoePLUS
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JoePLUS   8/8/2012 3:21:14 AM
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But getting back to the design of the iPhone and Samsung smartphones, the criteria for a design patent is 'ornamental design for an object having practical utility'. A design does not have to be identical to infringe a design patent, it only need to be 'substantially similar'. So I guess it comes down to the legal definition of 'substantially similar'.

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JoePLUS   8/8/2012 3:10:40 AM
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Sadly, I'm afraid that owning a cool product does make people think the owner is cool. I find this shallow and pathetic but it does seem to be the case.

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old account Frank Eory   8/7/2012 9:34:21 PM
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I've never met anyone who thought that owning an Apple product was a sign of prestige. Many people think the iPhone, iPad, etc. are cool, but I doubt that many people think the owners of those products are cool simply because they own one :)

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David Brown   8/7/2012 8:51:49 PM
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If "Apple products are viewed as a sign of prestige" and "high end users prefer Apple products", then let these "high end" users buy Apple products - and let others buy other products. Apple should be happy to compete on the quality of their products, their supporting ecosystem, and the strength of their brand. If people think their "i" products are better than other devices, they will buy them. Trying to hinder competition and alternatives on the basis of being a similar shape is just pathetic. Where would the motor industry be today if early manufacturers like Benz and Daimler had sued Ford for copying their "one wheel in each corner" design?

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Larry M   8/7/2012 8:49:14 PM
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The fees are already cut in half for "small entities," outfits with five or fewer employees.

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ScooterMcGooter   8/7/2012 8:19:02 PM
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Agree "when did Americans become so dumb". I was at Physio Control (Medtronic’s) and an engineer their had a patent hanging on the wall. The patent was for; "a defibrillator made portable, by putting a wall hanging hook on its back". The PTO holds my feet to the fire, but big corporate patent attorneys pay barely any more fees than the little guys. So, they can torment the PTO patent officers endlessly. I really think that some patent officers finally give in and grant these "obvious" "inventions" just to get that lawyer off their backs. Make it fairer? Easy, charge a PTO fee based on corporate valuation and gross revenue. Cut the fees in half for tiny 1 person independents. The Microshafts and Apples and Samsungs should pay a 100K application fee. They easily have the funds. If the PTO gets more income than its costs, then use the $$ to fund technical college types (Mechanical, electronics, materials) in exactly the ratios of the current applications.

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htk_#1   8/7/2012 6:24:02 PM
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subject matter that could be considered offensive to any race, religion, sex, ethnic group, or nationality is not proper subject matter for a Design Patent Application (35 U.S.C. 171 and 37 CFR § 1.3). The fact that I am a caucasian male and find the design of the iphone offensive proves that the iphone patent is invalid

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Bert22306   8/7/2012 6:14:37 PM
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"But fact of the matter is Apple products are viewed as sign of prestige. And high end users prefer Apple products." As a previous poster commented, when did Americans become so dumb? Good question. So, those who think they are privileged for owning iPhones want to make sure no one else builds rectangular toys with shiny finish and rounded corners? Doesn't the Galaxy phone have a wider aspect ratio screen? How come these experts can't notice that?

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SiliconAsia   8/7/2012 4:29:11 PM
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So then you agree Apple iOS is also a copy of someone else's - Xerox Parc Operations Systems. There is no Apple OS without Steve visiting Xerox Parc to experience first GUI based workstation.

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GREATTerry   8/7/2012 4:24:12 AM
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I think Samsung is not only copying on the shape but the whole human-machine interface is also the infringing. Maybe we have to say Android is also copying the ineterface of iOS.

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