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junko.yoshida
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junko.yoshida   8/21/2012 11:07:02 AM
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Do you eventually plan to go back yo the region you originally come from? Or do you plan to stay in the city for a long time?

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tthappy   8/21/2012 6:09:08 AM
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Every year, we are going home when spring festival is coming. May be two or three years to go back to see parents.

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tthappy   8/21/2012 6:00:00 AM
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House pricing is very high in cities like shenzhen and guangzhou. I can't afford it by myself with my limited salary. Some relationships with girls are broken. Dam price of house is going up everyday in every city in china.

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junko.yoshida   8/21/2012 2:07:30 AM
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That's a good question, Frank. I will find out.

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microe   8/20/2012 9:45:31 PM
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If the workers were so happy with their life, Communism would not have been so popular in the early 20th century.

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microe   8/20/2012 9:38:11 PM
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This is a big issue to talk about. If there are not enough resources, even removing all the restrictions will not help migrant workers much. Look at the movie Slumdog Millionaire. Indians can move freely throughout the country, but it does not mean a better life for people living at the bottom. The key is actually how many resources China has to provide to all the citizens and how to be fair. Apparently, China cannot afford to provide to all the citizens the living standard that Beijing/Shanghai local residents are having right now. The solution is to first have more resources and second distribute them fairly among all citizens, including migrant works. It seems China is on this path, (for example the rising labor cost) although not fast as many of us expect. But any change is hard in a country big as China.

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old account Frank Eory   8/20/2012 9:24:57 PM
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Are there any statistics on how long migrant workers remain in the cities? One might guess that some percentage work for a period of time to save money, then go back home, while others permanently relocate to the city...assuming they are allowed to do so.

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Bert22306   8/20/2012 7:51:28 PM
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Brian, I think you're comparing apples and oranges. Even when the Model T was being built, the US economy was not centrally planned, and people could move freely between cities and states, setting up residency wherever they needed to. In this case, as Junko pointed out, the Chinese government is involved in these relocation decisions, and it has to play catch-up.

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junko.yoshida   8/20/2012 7:24:58 PM
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This is a classic case of how China today is caught between fanatical economic drive and Socialist regime which does not wish to see a social uprising by allowing their own people to move too freely within their own country. I see this government's report a huge progress as they seem to be finally acknowledging the status of migrnant workweeks who have been traditionally treated as the second class citizens.

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Brian Fuller2   8/20/2012 6:32:23 PM
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This is a bit of a different challenge than when Henry Ford made cars that his workers could buy, and I'm not sure why. America then and China now were/are booming economies, creating wealth in one form or another. A Ford Model T in 1909 cost (in today's dollars) $21,000. Financing made it affordable. If iPads were available in 1909, they'd cost around $16 (compared to the $850 Model T). So, while I'm no economist, something's changed in 100 years that's for darn sure.

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