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geekmaster
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geekmaster   8/21/2012 5:22:35 PM
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I heard that this is the conversion of the exisiting Flash fab to make all of Austin Logic.

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mcgrathdylan   8/21/2012 6:54:52 PM
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@GoGoGeek- I believe that is accurate. We are trying to get further details and clarification.

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resistion   8/22/2012 9:56:13 PM
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Originally, there was speculation they would go to 3D NAND, guess not.

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resistion   8/27/2012 5:02:11 AM
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There is a logic and a flash fab in Austin. It would be a surprise to suddenly stop the flash production.

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m00nshine   9/6/2012 3:00:01 AM
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I do not know of separate fabs in Austin for flashes and logic chips, but Samsung press report says "full system LSI" production at austin fab. Remember announcement of new samsung china memory fab for flashes? Maybe Austin memory production move to china fab to make possible more profitable LSI in USA.

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Stanley_   8/21/2012 6:56:19 PM
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the fab is only for apple? How the title can be validated?

mcgrathdylan
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mcgrathdylan   8/21/2012 8:06:13 PM
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@Stanley- the fab is certainly not only for Apple. The headline does not tell the entire story. Read on.

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m00nshine   8/22/2012 2:59:16 AM
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Certainly not? The only thing that is certain is that the customer for autin fab chips is unknown. Apple could "certainly" be anywhere from 0% to 100% customer from Austin samsung fab. That is all that is certain because no one will confirm it or even comment on itt... not samsung or apple.

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mcgrathdylan   8/23/2012 1:10:46 AM
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@m00nshine- That's a good point. Nothing is really certain. But the fab is widely believed to make A4 and A5 processors for Apple, as well as other products.

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Kinnar   8/21/2012 8:03:24 PM
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Its a very strange condition and position of the two giant industries, at one end the fight is going on for patent violations and on the other end one company is fully dependent on the other for the basic needs of hardware.

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joepaiii   8/22/2012 2:54:18 AM
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I don't know that Apple is fully dependent on Samsung, I wouldn't be surprised to see another source pop up on this cycle of hardware. Maybe the new processor will be fabbed in Austin and a slow migration of older parts to TMSC/Global.

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sprite0022   8/22/2012 12:20:25 AM
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can they just merge?

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HS_SemiPro   8/22/2012 3:35:15 AM
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what a Business model these 2 companies have, fight for Design innovation, while sharing the Hardware Manufacturing. I think the reason why Samsung is still making Apple chips, it doesn't want to let it go TSMC or Global Foundries. Samsung has good technology and Apple needs it now,until they can trust somebody else. (Global Foundries,I am betting on it)

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Sheetal.Pandey   8/22/2012 8:10:39 AM
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Samsung is defintely doing right things. I guess since they are into many different business areas they are able to retain top two postions.

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elctrnx_lyf   8/22/2012 1:58:26 PM
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It's till interesting to see the ties between Samsung and apple are not disturbed even after the big fight about patent infringement.

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wilber_xbox   8/22/2012 6:04:14 PM
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So the financial incentives and political willpower is working in favor of US.

resistion
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resistion   8/22/2012 9:45:01 PM
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28 nm will be over when this fab is completed.

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mcgrathdylan   8/23/2012 1:09:06 AM
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@resistion- mass production in the revamped fab is supposed to start in the second half of next year. The most advanced A5 is 32-nm. Surely an A6 is forthcoming....

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_hm   8/23/2012 12:10:16 AM
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How much of this is money provided by Apple? Also, Intel must be watching this very closely.

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Bob Tsai   8/23/2012 1:12:39 AM
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We have heard this investment is mainly for 3D IC manufacture. According to the history of Austin Fab, maybe imply next gen processor for Apple (A7?!) would be 3D structure and Samsung may gain more market share across foundry business.

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sprite0022   8/23/2012 2:10:38 AM
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intel should follow fast, it's cpu lunch won't last very long.

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joshxdr   8/23/2012 2:18:31 AM
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Great news! I know that Hynix only had a US fab to circumvent punitive duties, and as soon as the duties expired they closed the fab. Samsung seems to be taking their US operations more seriously, which is great. Hopefully Samsung will start to shift some development to the US as well.

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HankWalker   8/24/2012 10:35:56 PM
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Joshxdr, see Samsung Austin Research Center.

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docdivakar   9/1/2012 12:01:10 AM
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Ironic, now that the mobile patent decision is out, will Samsung rethink the decision?



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