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Koda23
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Koda23   8/31/2012 12:16:07 AM
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Another Silicon Valley landmark that is not far from these PA locations is the former site of William Shockley's transistor lab at 391 San Antonio Rd in Mountain View. http://www.mv-voice.com/story.php?story_id=7801

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masher   8/30/2012 7:31:29 PM
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I agree, we are all a bit too touchy today aren't we? Who invented what first or who contributed the most; was it Ward, Loomis, Tesla, De Forest, Armstrong, Edison or whomever? The list of contested inventors and whether or not they thouroghly understood their inventions is not the subject but the fact that they all contributed something cannot be ignored and to call LDF a confidence man serves nothing. Case in point, after 50 or so years I still don't understand women and probably never will but I still endeavor to be interested and fascinated by them and enjoy them and I would never think to call one a bad name.

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David Ashton   8/28/2012 9:35:49 AM
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Hmmm...touchy....and maybe a little bit arrogant? Some details of Brian's errors would be appreciated. I couldn't find anything worth writing home about. And where did you find the spell checker? I'd love to have one here... I don't want to revise history but I do think history is unkind to some whose contribution to the technology was as great as the inventor.

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David Ashton   8/28/2012 9:26:11 AM
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They're both in the same category I think. Both were the first to demonstrate something of great use, but both were not the people who developed it fully. The guys who did are just as worth of praise, but in this world no-one remembers who came 2nd...

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Hughston   8/27/2012 2:43:39 PM
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Traces really meant to be talking about Marconi and not DeForest. He got his people mixed up.

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mcottrell   8/27/2012 1:26:41 AM
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Brian-- Please engage an editor to fix your number, tense, and other problems--or proofread your own creations. For the rest of you engineering history revisionists--if you can't identify the year the triode was invented and demonstrated, or you can't figure out who went on record via a patent as having done so, then stop posting nonsense. By the way, in one of the ultimate insults to to the history of technology, the spell-checker at this site does not recognize the word triode. Idiot software geeks. Best regards, Matthew Cottrell

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David Ashton   8/25/2012 9:20:26 AM
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"Filled with a vacuum"?? No wonder I don't understand them. Please read "In a vacuum..."

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David Ashton   8/25/2012 9:19:11 AM
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For myself, I've always found solid-state devices easier to understand than bits of glass and wires filled with a vacuum. Especially when you have 2 pairs of EL34s (6CA7s over there) pumping out 20W into a nice pair of speakers. 20 Watts?? from a vacuum?? C'mon, that's black magic....

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David Ashton   8/25/2012 8:56:59 AM
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Good points (especially about the patents - he apparently got one for a device with the grid wires outside the plate...) but he did first come up with a working device and did practical demonstrations of it before the lawsuit in 1916. As for veneration, I'd go with the Wikipedia assertion that "De Forest is ONE of the fathers of the electronic age" (my caps). Armstrong was obviously another of them and I'd agree that he's been a bit short changed by history here.

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Bert22306   8/24/2012 9:06:38 PM
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Indeed! In fact, transisors and FETs are themselves triodes, but they have the same type of characteristic curves as pentodes. Bipolar transistors use current instead of voltage as the "valve's" throttling mechanism, but in the greater scheme of things, that's just a detail difference.

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