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re: Apple awarded $1.05B in Samsung patent case
tpfj   9/5/2012 4:15:27 PM
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Rick, have you taken a good look at a Samsung Galaxy S phone? If you have, you may notice that the rounded corners at the top have a smaller radius than the corners at the bottom. This is important for trade dress copying arguments. Did this come up at all? To my knowledge, Apple's iPhone rounded corners are the same top and bottom?

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re: Apple awarded $1.05B in Samsung patent case
junko.yoshida   8/28/2012 2:03:38 PM
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Frank, absolutely, you are dead on. I have heard so many times that high tech companies do prefer to file IP litigation in Texas, rather than in Silicon Valley, precisely for the reason you mentioned. They want to confuse the juror and they want their results their way. (I was told) But in this Apple vs Samsung case, my god, the jurors they assembled are amazing. I think it's a significant decision (and foresight) on the part of Apple to do this in the court in San Jose.

old account Frank Eory
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re: Apple awarded $1.05B in Samsung patent case
old account Frank Eory   8/27/2012 10:23:36 PM
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It's amazing what a jury of 9 random people in Silicon Valley looks like. Any suggestion that this jury was somehow inadequate or ill-equipped to hear this case is, I think, not going to fly. The foreman was a retired EE who worked for 35 years in the hard disk drive industry and has a patent of his own related to video compression. Another juror was a mechanical engineer, another "an aspiring software engineer", yet another had worked at National Semiconductor and yet another had worked at various IT startups as a benefits administrator. One prospective juror that Apple lawyers successfully excluded from the jury was a Google engineer who had worked on, among other things, the Android OS. This info came from the following article: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-25/apple-samsung-jury-may-have-leaned-on-engineer-patent-holder.html I don't know the ins & outs of why different IP litigation cases are filed in different districts, except that there is often a strong preference for filing in Tyler, Texas -- where IP litigation is a local cottage industry. There you might be able to get a jury consisting of a farmer, a housewife, a truck driver and any number of people completely unrelated to and lacking knowledge of the electronics industry. I mean no offense to the good people of Tyler, I'm just pointing out that there is no significant local electronics industry there. I don't quite understand the strategy of filing there. Do lawyers think a less technically sophisticated jury will be more easily influenced? That sword can cut both ways, and seems risky to me, whether you're the plaintiff or the defendant. For a case like this one, I would think either side would prefer a Silicon Valley jury containing several members with experience in our industry.

old account Frank Eory
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re: Apple awarded $1.05B in Samsung patent case
old account Frank Eory   8/27/2012 9:37:46 PM
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The jury foreman was himself a patent holder.

old account Frank Eory
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re: Apple awarded $1.05B in Samsung patent case
old account Frank Eory   8/27/2012 9:36:26 PM
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"a mobile phone is a mobile phone and there's not much form factor difference you can put in the design." Seriously? That may have been true prior to 2007, but the original iPhone changed everything. A good argument can be made that if not for the iPhone, there would be no Android phones either.

old account Frank Eory
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re: Apple awarded $1.05B in Samsung patent case
old account Frank Eory   8/27/2012 9:32:55 PM
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Maybe someday when x86 is as competitive on power as the ARM-based A5. Meanwhile, you can bet that Apple didn't blindly and aggressively pursue this litigation without considering possible effects on A5 supply. Whether Plan B is TSMC, GF, UMC or some combination of foundries, I strongly suspect that Plan B is more fully developed than anyone realizes.

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re: Apple awarded $1.05B in Samsung patent case
hot-electron   8/27/2012 7:43:46 PM
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What Apple will be doing with another billion $? I though they had too much cash on hand.

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re: Apple awarded $1.05B in Samsung patent case
wilber_xbox   8/27/2012 5:55:03 PM
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What is the possibility that the jury's decision will be overruled by higher court? I do not have a good knowledge of the jury system. It sounds like 9 randomly picked people, who have no expertise in electronics or law have decided on who is guilty.

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re: Apple awarded $1.05B in Samsung patent case
wilber_xbox   8/27/2012 5:52:44 PM
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my perception is that the people tend to buy genuine items even though they pay premiums. This case will be boon for Apple, which is already riding on iSuccess.

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re: Apple awarded $1.05B in Samsung patent case
wilber_xbox   8/27/2012 5:49:14 PM
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i am pretty sure that Apple buys Samsung chips on contract basis. Otherwise any manufacturer can increase the price based on demand.

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