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HS_SemiPro
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HS_SemiPro   8/30/2012 6:29:13 AM
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Well Platform still have Samsung, Global Foundries,IBM, Toshiba, ST, Malta FAb can supply Apple, 28nm tech has same base as Samsung, developed at IBM JDA

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chipmonk0   8/30/2012 3:00:30 PM
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Is GloFo not yet a credible alternative to TSMC at 28 nm ? Had heard something about QCOM exploring contracts with GloFo. How about Apple too ?

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SiliconAsia   8/30/2012 3:15:31 PM
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That's not true HS_SemiPro. Samsung no longer offers initial 28 Common platform process. They have migrated/evolved while others are still staying behind.

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SiliconAsia   8/30/2012 3:19:04 PM
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It's not that there are not enough fabs or money. It's technology know-hows and yielding. 28/20nm and advanced technologies are getting harder and harder to get yield up to achieve the level of economics and only TSMC, Intel and Samsung are able to demonstrate that right moment.

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SiliconAsia   8/30/2012 3:21:31 PM
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QCOM has contracts with TSMC, UMC and Samsung already and now they are exploring contracts with GloFo and SMIC? Why now?? Why not earlier?? Maybe Apple will follow suit - Samsung, TSMC first then UMC then GloFo then SMIC....

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abraxalito   8/31/2012 5:29:43 AM
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+1 for Morris Chang. He must have a wry smile on his face when turning down Apple proferring its corporate begging bowl. The tortoise gets his day in the sun :)

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abraxalito   8/31/2012 5:36:49 AM
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Mr Chang is sitting pretty knowing that he's holding the aces here. Those guys will come back with better deals, given time.

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abraxalito   8/31/2012 5:40:45 AM
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Obviously money is not king here or Apple and Qualcomm wouldn't come a-knocking. They've been caught short and think they can just buy their way out. They'll need to think again.

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abraxalito   8/31/2012 5:43:07 AM
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Its clear from reading the article that Apple and Qualcomm aren't coming to TSMC as customers. Customers would form an orderly queue and wait in line like everybody else does.

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pelle   8/31/2012 9:36:45 AM
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Apple will have to go to intel again for their silicon and all it will cost them is ditching ARM for Atom...

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