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joepaiii
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re: Yoshida in China: What is the Chinese Dream?
joepaiii   9/10/2012 4:25:48 AM
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I think you are reading too much of the media's view on the republican party. They don't hold the "everything for my family and friends; nothing for anyone else" view you allude to. We don't believe that people shouldn't be helped, it's that that federal government of the US shouldn't be the one providing all the support. There are local levels that work much better for that, starting with family and local communities. And in answer to the Chinese Dream - the answer seems obvious from the outside looking in. Using my best William Wallace (cue Braveheart images) impression - "FREEDOM!!!".

Duane Benson
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re: Yoshida in China: What is the Chinese Dream?
Duane Benson   9/10/2012 4:42:13 AM
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I don't know that we could really say that "freedom" is the Chinese dream. If I were living under an authoritarian government, I would want to get out or find a way to free myself and the others around me, but I'm not convinced that the Chinese as a whole or all cultures strive for freedom, or at least not freedom by our standards. I also don't think that it's our place to decide if other peoples should want freedom by our standards. What is our place, in my opinion, is to be an example of what limitless possibilities there are when free. We are far from perfect because we are human, but we are and should be a beacon of hope. We have had civil war, civil strife, world war, depression, recession, oppression, hatred and all of the other bad things that humans do to humans, but because we do have freedom, little by little over the years, we have made ourselves a better people. We have, by example, inspired others to be free. There are plenty of people who are perfectly satisfied with easy and are more than happy to accept easy over freedom. If not, authoritarian governments would disappear. Most of us here in the U.S. would very much rather have freedom that we need to work for, than an easy life without that freedom. Not much is easy in the U.S., but almost anything is possible. That "almost anything is possible" is the American dream in my mind.

rick merritt
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re: Yoshida in China: What is the Chinese Dream?
rick merritt   9/10/2012 4:59:47 AM
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I met a Chinese business man in tech who recently returned to China and bemoaned the fact that everyone is out for themselves. It seems it makes for a cold world if the dog-eat-dog business culture is the only culture and getting yours for you and your circle is the only value.

sprite0022
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re: Yoshida in China: What is the Chinese Dream?
sprite0022   9/10/2012 5:02:30 AM
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freedom, lmao, you mean freedom to access porn video, freedom to own a machine gun? save it to yourself. freedom... you will never get real freedom in any place, you can't drink beer if you are below 21 in US, in china you can. so what's the point, a vote? yeah right if it really matters.

sprite0022
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re: Yoshida in China: What is the Chinese Dream?
sprite0022   9/10/2012 5:06:56 AM
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one point you got right is Junko's IQ can't process such complicate/subtle social issues. yet she is not willing to give up though and generating all this trashes. one thing she should do is put on her nike shoes and visit next customer. /relates to 'freedom' comment see below...

sprite0022
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re: Yoshida in China: What is the Chinese Dream?
sprite0022   9/10/2012 5:13:14 AM
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I am very cool with current chinese leadership. my only wish is they get themselves disciplined better. They keep your TV clean and street safe, and shut out the liberal idiots fast and sweepingly. You don't have to have the headache to waste your time to argue with em. yeah, americans , enjoy your mormon president.

junko.yoshida
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re: Yoshida in China: What is the Chinese Dream?
junko.yoshida   9/10/2012 5:14:56 AM
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Duane, I agree. It is not our place to judge; and freedom, indeed, means different things to people in different countries. And yet, there is nothing wrong about having hope for unlimited possibilities. When my Chinese friend said that "control" is necessary to keep peace in China at this point of the nation's history, I respect that. Although, I must add that that's far from anything we know or we understand in our daily life in the United States.

sprite0022
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re: Yoshida in China: What is the Chinese Dream?
sprite0022   9/10/2012 5:16:51 AM
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what's real american dream ( for many) answer: 4 wives, maybe more... free sex ( easy to conclude from american's favorite American pie series)

junko.yoshida
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re: Yoshida in China: What is the Chinese Dream?
junko.yoshida   9/10/2012 5:33:48 AM
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If that's your take of the American Dream, what's the Chinese Dream in your opinion?

sprite0022
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re: Yoshida in China: What is the Chinese Dream?
sprite0022   9/10/2012 6:08:33 AM
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@ junko uh... if you really follow chinese blogs/tweets/discussions it's conquer japan...

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