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re: This is still the same Apple!
numberone3   9/25/2012 4:48:33 PM
I take issue with the example of the iphone4 antenna as evidence of S Jobs' fallibility. The iphone4 antenna was the legacy of Mark Papermaster who was recruited from IBM to lead Apple device engineering. IIRC, the iphone4 dev including antenna design was done while Jobs was out on medical leave and the resulting fallout from antennagate led directly to Jobs firing Papermaster shortly after returning to the job. Some of your other analysis is problematic as well because it does not mention the seemingly obvious reason for the existence of Apple Maps in the first place which is to spite Google and get them out of iOS. That is absolutely the dying will of Steve Jobs. Apple is really turning off a lot of people that love Google services and they need to be called on it for their own good. -Steve

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re: This is still the same Apple!
GREAT-Terry   9/25/2012 2:58:50 PM
I think turn by turn voice is important for many drivers so it is the starting point for people to really use iPhone as their navigating machine.

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re: This is still the same Apple!
old account Frank Eory   9/24/2012 8:16:07 PM
Having tried the new iOS6 maps app for just this past weekend, and having read a couple articles about this "disaster," I still don't get what all the fuss is about. Does it have the same accuracy as Google Maps? Apparently not, according to the experts. In fact, those experts say it has the same errors as Tom Tom's products, since both companies buy their map data from the same Dutch company. But I don't personally know anyone who complains about their Tom Tom's map data accuracy, and in my limited testing of driving around the Phoenix area this weekend, I couldn't find any errors in the new Apple maps app. Perhaps if I took an extended leave of absence and traveled the world with my iPhone, I could locate some map data errors in a few places! What I did notice is that the new app gives turn-by-turn voice directions, using the Siri voice. Now THAT is actually something useful, even though it's something I didn't need, since I already had that capability with the Mapquest iOS app. This also explains why I would never have noticed if the old Google-based maps app in iOS5 was better or worse than the new Apple app or the Mapquest app or any other navigation app -- because the old Google-based app didn't offer turn-by-turn voice directions, so I almost never used it.

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re: This is still the same Apple!
hazydave   9/24/2012 6:57:37 PM
There's nothing wrong with the mapping software -- you're just driving wrong!

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re: This is still the same Apple!
Duane Benson   9/23/2012 9:10:41 PM
I agree. Having just a few flagship products as opposed to dozens like many companies, makes the few misses more glaring and all of the hits more hype-able. Apple has made bad products under Steve Jobs' helm and while run by others. They've had enough major hits to make up for the misses. The iPhone is really more than it's specs and operations. Coca Cola is just colored, flavored sugar water, but it's one of the best known and best like drinks in the world. That's not because of the technology or ingredients. What makes Apple, Apple hasn't changed.

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