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re: Intel plans to crush ARM beyond 20 nm
Kresearch   9/24/2012 10:43:30 PM
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Which Segment will intel plan to crush ARM beyond 20nm? PC? It would be low digit or no growth this and next year. Tablet? Too crowded and Intel is lack of infrastructure advantage. I bet it would be in server market. ARM plans to jump into for a while.

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chipguy 1   9/24/2012 8:16:48 PM
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Yes. What happen to 22nm FinFET being Intel's savior? Now Dadi is saying "Intel is biding its time. The semi giant appears quite prepared to wait a couple of generations until sub 20-nm nodes are breached before bringing the battle of low power processing to ARM and its mobile partners." This means 22nm is not competitive on cost, power, or timing !.... and maybe a solution now 2 years. sylviebarak, can you follow-up on what happen to 22nm finfet propaganda ?

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WiLess   9/24/2012 6:49:04 PM
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I am not an Intel fan at all, but considering this as a propaganda is a stretch. It still owns the best fab technology in the world. Laptops and servers are not going away or switching to ARMs any time soon. Mobile attempts definitely were a failure for Intel, but if they can learn from failures and fix their lack of understanding of the mobile market needs, the fab technology and capacities can give them an advantage. Besides performance and power there other aspects of mobile AP which can put an end to its life if overlooked at the architecture phase.

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re: Intel plans to crush ARM beyond 20 nm
Bruzzer   9/24/2012 6:28:16 PM
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Intel cannot afford to implement commercially beyond 20nm. Likely U.S. Government & Intel are concealing Corp. is looted & Bankrupt in future terms. Sources are 5; 1) infiltration by cartel organized network crime; 2) banked cost constructing surplus barrier limiting competitors beyond 32 nm; 3rd, theft from stockholderís to administer cost of channel price fix tie; 4th, theft from end customers charged price fix in invoice plus monopoly overcharges. Likely PC end buyers will see some recovery. 5th industrial theft from processors dumped at price less than cost. 5 categories record $178,000,000,000 unreported cost burden on Intel. Where are present cost burdens? 1st, inventories of Xeon Westmere EX, Aarondale, Sandy Bridge Desktop and Mobile. Issues are 3; first, surplus processors banked in channels on deferred revenue recognition; 2nd, completed systems stalled in channels showing now what is occurring inside Intel; 3rd, surplus banked goods; processors & systems, repurposed for apps that will compete against Intel future product while placing burden on industry in total. Finally, one must ask why Intel is sustaining price on prior runs instead of flushing at cost to recover investment burden? For Intel to dump inventories means twin tower effect on supply chain. As processor margins eliminated AMD becomes system house to capture remaining downstream producer values. Same for other processor design producers impacted by surplus raining down. Collapse flattens Intelís long time channel & contract manufacturers finally take over for certain. Final question was price hold a hidden condition in Docket 9341 consent agreement? Itís time for regulatory mechanisms in this country that are supposed to police monopolization, cartel and investment fraud, including at Intel, to do that job of be replaced with administrations that will do that job. Respectfully submitted, Mike Bruzzone

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re: Intel plans to crush ARM beyond 20 nm
SylvieBarak   9/24/2012 5:33:19 PM
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I meant fabs. It's fixed.

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re: Intel plans to crush ARM beyond 20 nm
SylvieBarak   9/24/2012 5:32:46 PM
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Sorry, I meant fabs. semantical error there. fixed now.

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re: Intel plans to crush ARM beyond 20 nm
Yog-Sothoth   9/24/2012 5:14:31 PM
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Is this not just another bit of Intel FUD to cheer the markets, after Warren Buffet dumped his Intel shares?

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Stanley_   9/24/2012 4:20:45 PM
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"Meanwhile, Intelís design teams work hand in hand with the foundries, in one unified effort. " "foundries" should be intel's own fab? or the reporter indeed meant foundrie"s"?

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re: Intel plans to crush ARM beyond 20 nm
chipmonk0   9/24/2012 3:13:15 PM
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Gullible, unqualified "reporters" seem to be swallowing every bit of propaganda. 22 nm Tri junction was supposed to be the break through node to end ARM domination of SoCs. Why is the power savings for the latest 22 nm CPU not up to expectation ? Come on EE Times hire some sincere reporters or you will soon lose credibility !

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re: Intel plans to crush ARM beyond 20 nm
resistion   9/24/2012 1:54:49 PM
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Intel's SoC focus is also a strong statement in and of itself. Whither SiP/TSV/3DIC?

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