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SylvieBarak
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re: Intel plans to crush ARM beyond 20 nm
SylvieBarak   9/24/2012 5:33:19 PM
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I meant fabs. It's fixed.

SylvieBarak
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re: Intel plans to crush ARM beyond 20 nm
SylvieBarak   9/24/2012 5:32:46 PM
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Sorry, I meant fabs. semantical error there. fixed now.

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Yog-Sothoth   9/24/2012 5:14:31 PM
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Is this not just another bit of Intel FUD to cheer the markets, after Warren Buffet dumped his Intel shares?

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Stanley_   9/24/2012 4:20:45 PM
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"Meanwhile, Intel’s design teams work hand in hand with the foundries, in one unified effort. " "foundries" should be intel's own fab? or the reporter indeed meant foundrie"s"?

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chipmonk0   9/24/2012 3:13:15 PM
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Gullible, unqualified "reporters" seem to be swallowing every bit of propaganda. 22 nm Tri junction was supposed to be the break through node to end ARM domination of SoCs. Why is the power savings for the latest 22 nm CPU not up to expectation ? Come on EE Times hire some sincere reporters or you will soon lose credibility !

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resistion   9/24/2012 1:54:49 PM
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Intel's SoC focus is also a strong statement in and of itself. Whither SiP/TSV/3DIC?

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KB3001   9/24/2012 1:53:47 PM
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Dadi must be having a laugh! It's Intel that will hit a wall with its obtuse pursuit of performance and power efficiency with x86 on top, banking solely on advances in the physical layer. These are at best linear in nature, whereas higher level optimisations can deliver much faster improvement rates. Moreover, are we to believe that Intel's investment in advanced technology nodes cannot be matched by all the rest of the semiconductor industry?? That would be arrogant and foolish. The reality is that the world has been heading towards open platforms and networks rather than oligopolies, for sometime now. It is this trend that has delivered unprecedented levels of higher performance and lower power AT LOW COST. Consumers realise that and they are not going back to the Wintel duopoly. PS. I am surprised some people are still buying Intel's propaganda!

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resistion   9/24/2012 1:43:10 PM
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This part seems weird: "With Intel pushing ahead to introduce FinFET to foundries and EUV at 14nm and under, ARM faces an even bigger crisis of competition. Meanwhile, Intel’s design teams work hand in hand with the foundries, in one unified effort." Why would Intel work with foundries? Foundries don't have x86-based customers.

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resistion   9/24/2012 1:32:28 PM
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Intel is betting on EUV never happening in the future. It's a reasonable bet. Granted that Intel tends to introduce nodes earlier than foundries, it stands to lose if EUV suddenly becomes available, say between its 14 nm node and some lagging foundries' 14 nm node. But it will suffer the same inevitable costs of two generations of double patterning and two generations of quadruple patterning.

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m00nshine   9/24/2012 1:06:41 PM
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least advanced intel chip being sold is still 2x the estimated cost reported on this site for A6 chip in iPhone. Almost every one of intel chip is more like 10x or greater cost of A6. Current Price list is at intel.com for all to see. So intel will make some magic architecture at most advanced 14nm node, in brand new D1X and fab42...and will cut chip price in half?? I don't think so. Intel has enjoyed and abused monopoly for years, I do not see how intel can compete in volume against entrenched mobile foundry like TSMC, UMC, Samsung, etc. Anyway, current ARM ecosystem is much more consumer friendly than this one you suggest where intel "crush" ARM

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