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abraxalito
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re: Intel plans to crush ARM beyond 20 nm
abraxalito   9/26/2012 12:48:44 AM
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I suspect Intel isn't selling its propaganda - rather its paying people to swallow it ;-)

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KB3001   9/25/2012 10:54:07 PM
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We believe you! :-) PS. This is not a matter of Intel vs. ARM folks. This is about long-term lower cost higher performance and open platforms vs. a return to the oligopolies of the past. The choice is clear...

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Fraggle   9/25/2012 10:18:48 PM
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Just seen the launch of two very competitive medfield based intel phones that outperform similar pricec arm devices and have aversge mobile battery performance. Here in Europe. And they were just proof of concept. Now chipzilla has the making of a true mobile device proc., 2+ yeafrs lead in process technology, gazillions cash on the balance sheet and more fab capability than tsmc and a few others put together.

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Youself   9/25/2012 5:43:36 PM
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what's not addressed in this article is that mfring node is not the only competitive dimension. The world does not start and stop solely with transistor current consumption. Architecture optimized for use cases can be a huge differentiator and more than make up for the gap in transistor vs transistor efficiency.

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resistion   9/25/2012 1:04:39 AM
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Apple could have two versions (x86 and ARM), to secure all the manufacturing bases.

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Kresearch   9/25/2012 12:13:10 AM
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Apple adopts Intel CPU in iMac already. It would be interesting to see intel replacing Samsung to take Apple's foundry order in 22nm SOC. I remembered TSMC licensed Intel's Atom core for mobile chip manufacturing about 2-3 years ago. Is there any progress update till now?

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jg_   9/24/2012 10:55:11 PM
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Intel is a manufacturer, and ARM is merely a license, so this is comparing apples and oranges. The difference is not the cores - end customers do not care about cores. Look at Apple, they managed to CHANGE cores entirely, and barely missed a beat, and support multiple cores now. The difference is in Manufacturing Capability, and there, intel really is the 600lb gorilla. A smarter question is could Apple team with intel, on a new design ?

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Kresearch   9/24/2012 10:43:30 PM
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Which Segment will intel plan to crush ARM beyond 20nm? PC? It would be low digit or no growth this and next year. Tablet? Too crowded and Intel is lack of infrastructure advantage. I bet it would be in server market. ARM plans to jump into for a while.

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chipguy 1   9/24/2012 8:16:48 PM
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Yes. What happen to 22nm FinFET being Intel's savior? Now Dadi is saying "Intel is biding its time. The semi giant appears quite prepared to wait a couple of generations until sub 20-nm nodes are breached before bringing the battle of low power processing to ARM and its mobile partners." This means 22nm is not competitive on cost, power, or timing !.... and maybe a solution now 2 years. sylviebarak, can you follow-up on what happen to 22nm finfet propaganda ?

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WiLess   9/24/2012 6:49:04 PM
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I am not an Intel fan at all, but considering this as a propaganda is a stretch. It still owns the best fab technology in the world. Laptops and servers are not going away or switching to ARMs any time soon. Mobile attempts definitely were a failure for Intel, but if they can learn from failures and fix their lack of understanding of the mobile market needs, the fab technology and capacities can give them an advantage. Besides performance and power there other aspects of mobile AP which can put an end to its life if overlooked at the architecture phase.

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