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Simon7382
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re: Intel plans to crush ARM beyond 20 nm
Simon7382   10/2/2012 3:38:01 AM
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Well, you seem to have a strong opinion about the world moving toward open systems, etc. However, the facts do not seem to support your opinion. Just look at Apple and your theory about open systems. No one gives a damn about whether a new product comes from an "open system" or from a close done, the only question is value (more precisely perceived value) delivered to the customer.

Simon7382
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re: Intel plans to crush ARM beyond 20 nm
Simon7382   10/2/2012 3:32:48 AM
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Intel has always been ahead by 3-4 years of all those foundries you mentioned, and, if anything the distance will grow. As far as your "do not see"...just watch for the next couple of years and you will.

resistion
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re: Intel plans to crush ARM beyond 20 nm
resistion   10/1/2012 7:20:32 AM
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10 kV and almost 500 kA (used to be 300 kA) power input.

resistion
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re: Intel plans to crush ARM beyond 20 nm
resistion   9/30/2012 4:41:10 PM
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In particular, that group announced the same concept several years ago at conferences. But there was no startup that time. Now that its their business, they need to get press attention.

resistion
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re: Intel plans to crush ARM beyond 20 nm
resistion   9/30/2012 4:16:39 PM
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It's a press stunt for now. The value of any power increase is to enable higher doses to the resist in reasonable time. But the resist response is the key gotcha.

motti2
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re: Intel plans to crush ARM beyond 20 nm
motti2   9/30/2012 12:22:46 PM
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The recent announcement of a 100x higher energy EUV source by a Washington professor and ASML announcing a firmer EUV timeline ( and implied might be purchase of the higher power Zpinch plasma EUV source ) hints that all of a sudden EUV might gain viability it has been missing for years. With the higher power plasma source there might be all kinds of unexpected good things on a nearing horizon. And it will likely invigorate major players in the industry for faster node milestones

resistion
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re: Intel plans to crush ARM beyond 20 nm
resistion   9/30/2012 8:38:15 AM
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Since 40 nm hp metal lines were used by Intel, they had to run longer. 28 nm node foundry runs around 45 nm hp, allowing shorter lines.

resistion
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re: Intel plans to crush ARM beyond 20 nm
resistion   9/30/2012 8:12:20 AM
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Intel did show a 0.15 at 32 nm afterwards, and for 22 nm they use 60 nm pitch fins, which requires double patterning.

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re: Intel plans to crush ARM beyond 20 nm
Diogenes53   9/29/2012 4:19:12 PM
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Intel's 14nm is like 8 inches on AOL. In both cases, the owner owns the only ruler.

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re: Intel plans to crush ARM beyond 20 nm
rfab   9/28/2012 7:36:20 AM
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IEDM 2009 32soc sram 0.15

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