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askubel
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re: What were they thinking: Apple crazy?
askubel   10/5/2012 2:55:56 PM
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It's like they're implying the existence of a system that has the sole purpose of interpreting kinetic sensor and touchscreen data to modify the print settings. This is obviously absurd - the whole patent was clearly designed to use against competitors that happen to have print settings and gesture recognition on the same device. I think the problem lies with the nature of the patent office. The job is so boring that anyone with the ability/experience to recognize bogus patents would never work there.

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BrianBailey   10/5/2012 3:22:35 PM
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I agree with you. The whole notion of gesture control has been captured in movies for the longest time. That in my mind makes gesture control of anything pretty obvious.

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BrianBailey   10/5/2012 3:26:11 PM
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We have seen examples of using the engineering community to help with projects. Maybe this is the direction the patent office should go in. Make it easy for anyone to supply the patent office with prior art during the application process. Then the patents would never get issued rather than having to fight in court afterwards.

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zooglen   10/5/2012 5:29:24 PM
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Prior art: "Turn device upside-down and shake to erase screen." It was called an Etch-a-Sketch...

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Battar   10/6/2012 10:15:39 AM
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You could probably find prior art for many new technologies in 1970s' episodes of "Star Trek". I find the patent system very frustrating, as our competitors are continously filing applications for the screamingly obvious, and examiners often allow patents that are both obvious and not novel. About 2 years ago one company filed a patent application for the use of an accelerometer as a tilt sensor. The European examiner couldn't find any prior art and allowed the patent!

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Battar   10/6/2012 10:17:24 AM
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As of July this year, WIPO allows you to do this. The USPTO hasn't yet realized that the engineering community will happily do their work for them for free.

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EREBUS0   10/6/2012 8:37:32 PM
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Next they will claim a patent for breathing. I can't wait for the new bible to come out claiming Steve Jobs was the son of God. All hail and worship Apple. Give me a break.

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Duane Benson   10/7/2012 4:26:42 AM
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I think this is pretty cool. If I want to get salt out of a salt shaker, I turn it upside down and shake. Same thing if I want to get ketchup out of a ketchup bottle. It makes perfect sense that if I want to get my writing out of my computer, I should turn it upside down and shake. If I want to get excess butter off of my toast, I scrape it off with a knife or my finger. Again, it makes perfect sense to wipe it out of the computer with my finger or a knife. The big concern that I have surrounding this is if I will still be able to buy my favorite brand of salt, ketchup and bread if these patents are granted.

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bwalker970   10/8/2012 4:17:12 PM
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Umm, you're missing the point that the patent examiner approved both patents. The patent system is broken in many ways including its impetus to disclosure of inventions in such lurid and cryptic detail in its own special language. It's a lawyer's paradise.

Tloose
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Tloose   10/9/2012 12:48:16 PM
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These are patent APPLICATIONS, not granted patents.

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