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re: ARM tips 64-bit 'big-little' processor, partners
digital_dreamer   10/30/2012 9:27:40 PM
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Anyone know what the roadmap is for ARM Cortex? I'm more interested in what's in store for a Cortex M0/M3/M4 update in the embedded space, not smartphone/tablet CPUs. MAJ

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Peter Clarke   10/30/2012 10:57:34 PM
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I am meeting someone from embedded side of business tomorrow so I'll ask. But I don't think ARM has any announcements scheduled so probably won't say much.

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re: ARM tips 64-bit 'big-little' processor, partners
rick merritt   10/31/2012 2:33:39 AM
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I'd love to hear anyone's thoughts about how initially mobile developers might try to use this 64-bit capability.

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glennthera   10/31/2012 4:00:22 AM
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Does anyone have any clues about Samsung's big.Little based Cortex A15/A7 chips which were supposed to be announced at ARM Tech Con? It's long overdue from Samsung n many of us r left wondering when the 1st big.Little SOCs from Samsung r gonna be delivered n move into the sphere of mass availability? Thx for any info!

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re: ARM tips 64-bit 'big-little' processor, partners
rick merritt   11/1/2012 3:21:36 PM
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At Samsung's keynote, the chip exec talked about its dual core Exynos 5, presumably with an A15 and A7 made in a 32 nm HKMG process. It uses ARM Mali T604 graphics core supporting OpenCL. The SoC is in the new Google Chromebook and Galaxy 10 Tab amd a Quanta ultra thin ODM tablet design.

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re: ARM tips 64-bit 'big-little' processor, partners
rick merritt   11/1/2012 6:22:59 PM
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Correction: Samsung's Exynos 5 dual uses two A15 cores. ARM says the first big/little SoCs won't be ready until early next year. Some of the sw for it is still in development though early test results are promising.

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re: ARM tips 64-bit 'big-little' processor, partners
glennthera   10/31/2012 4:07:27 AM
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All we seem to be getting at present r future projections of more advanced chips (read Cortex A57-A53)which r still a good year n half away but v r yet to get any practical implementations of the 1st gen Cortex A15-A7 big.Little chips which hav been long announced!

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re: ARM tips 64-bit 'big-little' processor, partners
rick merritt   11/1/2012 3:22:25 PM
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See above re the Dual Exynos 5 from Samsung. Not many tech or preformance details but the chip is out.

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tb1   10/31/2012 10:46:38 PM
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"I'd love to hear anyone's thoughts about how initially mobile developers might try to use this 64-bit capability." Smartphones already have 2G of DRAM. And there is a lot of feature growth (and bloat) with every new generation. It won't be long before that memory doubles, and then you've exceeded your 32 bit processor memory space.

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re: ARM tips 64-bit 'big-little' processor, partners
ewertz   11/3/2012 3:41:15 PM
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I thought that the current Cortex-A ISA supported 40-bit physical under 32-bit virtual addressing, but I could be wrong since I'm more of an -M guy.

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re: ARM tips 64-bit 'big-little' processor, partners
help.fulguy   11/2/2012 4:57:21 AM
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Good luck putting Exynos5 as it is at 1.5GHz in a smartphone. The battery will last 2 hours. Rick, I thought you are smarter than what you are saying here. Putting A57 in a mobile phone. Good luck. Why not put AMD Trinity into a phone, then. i think your gray hair is covering your brain from working or may be you are too old for this

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re: ARM tips 64-bit 'big-little' processor, partners
glennthera   11/2/2012 8:31:08 AM
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Yep i wud 2nd that notion! D current drastic improvements in processing power mean little or nothng wthout commensurate improvements in power efficiency n battery life! All the smartphone n handheld device specs these days r getting bloated without any1 focusing proper attention on d most basic thing wich runs it all- the battery! ARM seems 2 hav at least partially addressed the problem with their big.Little approach but we're yet to see any real chip implementation of a big.Little part for the 1st generation n v alrdy hav an announcement of 2nd gen big.Little processors! Somethng dsnt add up here! ARM n Samsung where r d 1st gen big.Little SOCs featuring Cortex A15-A7 pairs???

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re: ARM tips 64-bit 'big-little' processor, partners
Peter Clarke   11/2/2012 4:42:12 PM
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Part of the issue is that: because ARM is developing IP for licensing to semiconductor partners it has to be a couple of years ahead of those semiconductor partners. When ARM announced Cortex-A7 and the big-little approach in Oct. 2011 the company said tape-outs including the Cortex-A7 were expected 1H12 with SoCs and products based on them to follow in 2013, East said. Seems like ARM and partners are not late on that timetable...yet!

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re: ARM tips 64-bit 'big-little' processor, partners
glennthera   11/3/2012 4:43:36 AM
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Thanx 4 d info Peter! New processor cores n newer tech. is ALWAYS welcome! However, I believe Samsung were supposed 2 announce their 1st big.Little chips at this ARM TechCon! Any news about that yet?



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