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re: Developing non-inertial navigation devices
vofptc   11/13/2012 3:22:55 PM
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It is a good question. In some books you may find positive opinion about existence of a non-inertial frame of reference. I don’t think so and here is why. An inertial frame of reference is “tacitly assumed co-ordinate system in which we would specify the position of the particle from instance to instance… and further, a means of measuring time…” Georg Joos “Theoretical Physics”. Such frame is impossible to establish for light, since every measure of distance at speed of light is collapsing to zero and time is going into infinity. Thanks

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vofptc   11/13/2012 3:22:19 PM
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It is a good question. In some books you may find positive opinion about existence of a non-inertial frame of reference. I don’t think so and here is why. An inertial frame of reference is “tacitly assumed co-ordinate system in which we would specify the position of the particle from instance to instance… and further, a means of measuring time…” Georg Joos “Theoretical Physics”. Such frame is impossible to establish for light, since every measure of distance at speed of light is collapsing to zero and time is going into infinity. Thanks

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vofptc   11/13/2012 3:21:03 PM
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Ignorance is a bliss! Yes our work on the subject was that old. My initial contact with the Professor began back in 1987 regarding some point on QED and continues about a year before his death. My contact with Dr. Teller was done in 1999. And yes it is done in writing! Please continue to learn from the Wikipedia and find some another subject that may awake your positive attitude.

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David Brown   11/13/2012 2:01:34 PM
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Photons /are/ bosons - but there are plenty of bosons that /do/ have mass. In fact, all bosons except photons (and perhaps gravitons) have rest mass. And as I noted earlier, photons have no /rest/ mass - but they do have an effective mass due to their energy, and are affected by intertial systems (look up gravitational lensing for an example). It is quite impressive that you had your work reviewed by Professors Bethe and Teller, considering they died in 2005 and 2003 respectively, and both were well into their nineties at the time. Did you use a ouija board to get their opinions? We live in a world with Wikipedia. You can't just make up drivel by combining a few scientific terms and name-dropping, and expect people to believe you. Even readers who don't know this stuff already can easily look it up and see that you are talking nonsense. Have a look at this for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#Contributions_to_the_mass_of_a_system

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Theophilus_   11/13/2012 2:00:02 AM
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Val, I believe that the effect you are describing is real. The Sagnac and Michelson-Gale experiments prove the same reality. Also, you would not have gone to the effort of applying for US patent 8213023 if you were not observing reality. My question is based on the statement at http://www.space-navigation.com/2294.html that "due to photon’s massless nature, it does not inherit properties of any inertial system". Surely, if light does not inherit properties of any inertial system, this implies that light has its own unique frame of reference?

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vofptc   11/12/2012 10:14:30 PM
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Let me repeat it again – since a photon, as a member of Boson family, has no mass therefore it does not follow the rules of Newtonian physics. Hence the inertial force that imposes any mass bearing objects, regardless of their size, to move alone with the object in motion (at any speed including constant velocity) does not apply to the massless photon! The following message for you and others homegrown theoreticians of physics!!! The theoretical foundation of our development was reviewed by famous Professor Hans Bethe and Edward Teller and got their unshakable approval in writing. So, all these interpretations of laws of physics and nasty remarks just show the luck of knowledge on the subject you are so compelled to express by your ignorance. FYI- In publishing this article we have no interest to “con money” run “scam” and etc… the goal of the article is to provide real professionals on the field with reliable information on this revolutionary development.

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David Brown   11/12/2012 8:23:47 PM
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You seem to have skipped a few classes on relativity and basic particle physics. A photon has no /rest/ mass. But the photon is not at rest. It is moving, and has energy - so E=mc^2 gives us its mass. And so if your gadget is moving at a constant velocity, the photon will move directly from the transmitter to the receiver, regardless of the velocity. This is the very foundation of relativity. And while all scientists will agree that relativity is only a theory, and may be disproved, I am confident that if the effect you are describing here were real, it would have been noticed a long time ago. This whole idea is about as realistic as "Blacklight Power" - just enough pseudo-scientific nonsense to baffle non-physicists, combined with wonderful potential benefits to inspire such greed in investors that rational scepticism is forgotten. It's a scam to con money out of naive investors.

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vofptc   11/12/2012 3:08:28 PM
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Acceleration is a change of speed; constant angular velocity is precisely that- constant angular velocity is. To measure summa vector you have to have a sophisticated memory scope that not only mark the spot, but produces trigonometrical functions like finding square root of summa square of X and Y. I did spent some time working with your remarks but I am sorry that this would be my final reply on your req. I wish you all the best in further searches and info gatherings.

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AlNav   11/11/2012 6:58:49 PM
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Well, I look forward to that information, when it is cleared for publication. Regarding Michelson-Gale, based on a little research I just did, that was a demonstration of the detection of rotation. Which is an acceleration, since it is not a constant velocity (speed and direction). Could you point me to any papers showing replication of the R. Wang results in the last 9 years? Pardon my ignorance, but I am not familiar with "summa-vector" diagrams of motion, and a quick Google search didn't return any results with that exact phrasing. Typically an oscilloscope display will give some sense of the scale being measured, and all of the oscilloscopes I've used only measure voltage. I understand that voltage can be a measure of some other physical parameter, but it is typically up to the observer to determine the "translation" of voltage to physical property. Best Regards!

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vofptc   11/11/2012 12:21:31 AM
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Regarding M-M experiment I would suggest that you will search for Michelson-Gale. As it stated in the Article "Fig.1 shows the dual summa vector oscilloscope type diagram". Hope you know about summa-vector type diagrams of motion. We will definitely provide more in detailed information on the development if such information will be cleared for publication.

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