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George Ou
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re: Qualcomm overtakes Intel in market capitalization
George Ou   11/11/2012 4:40:33 AM
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AMD have decided that they are going to leave the Semi-conductor market because they know that they can't make competitive products anymore and that Kaveri is a woeful failure and are embarrassed by the conduct of their fanboys. AMD bankrupt Q1 2014

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re: Qualcomm overtakes Intel in market capitalization
sranje   11/10/2012 3:24:23 PM
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Qualcomm's market valuation bigger than Intel... Soon Samsung's and even Broadcom's and MediaTek's also?

song-chou-1
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re: Qualcomm overtakes Intel in market capitalization
song-chou-1   11/10/2012 3:27:42 AM
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Calling a delayed 14nm "12nm" is genius. The foundry naming 14/16nm (i.e. which uses 20SOC 64nm metal pitch) shows how bankrupt the industry is on advancing moores laws. none (as opposed to their public position)are going to volume production at 14/16nm with no die size reduction and die cost increase.

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re: Qualcomm overtakes Intel in market capitalization
resistion   11/10/2012 2:50:18 AM
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If Intel's 14 nm process is delayed by at least half-node, they could pull a naming trick (as tsmc has done before), and call it '12 nm', for example.

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re: Qualcomm overtakes Intel in market capitalization
song-chou-1   11/10/2012 1:35:02 AM
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Mr. Resistion, I hear Intel's engineering team came clean and concluded current approach to 14nm would not work after spending $2B. Plan was to ship 14nm parts in 2013 and now that plan has been scrapped. 0% chance of shipping a single 14nm chip in 2013. On top of that Intel marketing this year was claiming 22nm was not competitive in market but "just wait until 14nm". Intel now plans to to ship LTE chips fabricated at TSMC for next 2 years. However, TSMC is business smart. It is not going to give Intel a good wafer price over its long term customers like Qualcomm that buys many more chips in the chipset (wifi, LTE, RF and SOCs chips) unlike Intel LTE with Atom fabricated by an Intel internal fab.

resistion
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re: Qualcomm overtakes Intel in market capitalization
resistion   11/10/2012 1:14:14 AM
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Intel seems to have delayed 14 nm due to business reasons, first time I've heard this excuse, wouldnt have thought from Intel. http://www.electronicsweekly.com/Articles/09/11/2012/54972/intel-cuts-training-delays-14nm-raises-fears-for-ireland.htm

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re: Qualcomm overtakes Intel in market capitalization
mobileman1   11/9/2012 10:08:59 PM
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Market understands Intel's product roadmap troubles. Qualcomm larger market value might be correct. Intel killing itself with pursuit of Moore's Law for no business advantage. I can confirm (ex-mobile designer) 14nm is late, not working. 1272/14nm design shuttle tape outs all pushed out due to problems with process. 14nm has many issues and seriously now SOI being possible fix. At this stage design teams have unstable 0.1 silicon models. No meaningful Baseband processor design can be started based on current state of 14nm.

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any1   11/9/2012 8:12:08 PM
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I believe that the stock market is currently undervaluing Intel and overvaluing Qualcomm. Intel's price to earnings to growth ratio (5 years) is about 0.84 whereas Qualcomm is about 1.12. Given today's stock prices I would put more of my money in the Intel basket than with Qualcomm.

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me3   11/9/2012 6:21:17 PM
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The roadrunner does fine until he looks down.

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re: Qualcomm overtakes Intel in market capitalization
mcgrathdylan   11/9/2012 5:51:36 PM
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This really surprised me when I first saw the headline. But I guess, considering trends in mobile computing devices versus PCs, it's really not that much of a shock.

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