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resistion
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re: Europe plots three pilot wafer fabs
resistion   5/24/2013 12:04:10 PM
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What's the revenue model?

skyhawk2
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re: Europe plots three pilot wafer fabs
skyhawk2   5/24/2013 12:08:36 AM
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somebody in europe will be making a lot of money, but not going to be the fab. At $6B each for a leading edge 300mm fab just to have the big enough capacity scale to make an impact, and Europe wants to build three of them. At 450mm I cant even fathom how much it would cost a fab. The worst part is only two foundries are making money TSMC and SMIC, Its cheaper and get a better return to invest in Airbus.

Morethanmoore
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re: Europe plots three pilot wafer fabs
Morethanmoore   11/28/2012 1:02:09 AM
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Seems like CNSE will have some competition, if it ever happens.

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re: Europe plots three pilot wafer fabs
Peter Clarke   11/22/2012 3:29:15 PM
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@GoGoGeek I doubt these would be state-owned, but rather state-funding facilitated. Typically the European Commission is prepared to give money to commerical entities for pre-competitive collaborative research projects on a 50:50 basis. So when Andreas Wild talks about elligible costs he may need to see commercial companies raise a similar amount to that which will come from the EC and national governments. So IF -- and thats a big IF -- these pilot wafer fabs ever get built or nominated they are likely to be owned by a consortium comprising three or more companies. That might include the likes of Intel and Globalfoundries although justifying the money gets harder and into political choppy water when inward investors are involved. The problem is that none of the usual suspects -- Infineon, NXP and STMicroelectronics -- seem that interested in keeping IC manufacturing in Europe.

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re: Europe plots three pilot wafer fabs
geekmaster   11/22/2012 1:38:01 AM
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Thanks Pete! So these would be mainly state-owned facilities. The fiscal situation in Europe is not rosy. I wonder if they consider non-government entities to join in.

Peter Clarke
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re: Europe plots three pilot wafer fabs
Peter Clarke   11/21/2012 7:34:13 PM
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Where else but the national and European authorities. In other words European taxpayers.

geekmaster
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re: Europe plots three pilot wafer fabs
geekmaster   11/21/2012 7:05:36 PM
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Using existing facilities makes more sense to me and i smuch cheaper. Where is the funding coming from?



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