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mhrackin
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re: Windows 8 failing to boost PC sales
mhrackin   12/11/2012 9:58:48 PM
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In my case, Win8 DID result in a new PC sale...only NOT one running Win8! My wife's XP Celeron machine had run out of adequate poop some time back, and was getting "constipated" at least once a day. I picked up a refurb HP Win7 Home Premium machine for less than $200, with 1TB HD, multicore CPU, 4GB RAM, etc. My only beef with it is Mr. Softy killed the ability to use a network drive for backup.

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re: Windows 8 failing to boost PC sales
garydpdx   12/3/2012 9:31:18 PM
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An important question for a lot of people (since this is the EE Times) would be ... how well do engineering apps run, if they have been installed on a Windows 8 machine? A lot of EDA tools are still being run on XP machines. A few people have finally made the move to Windows 7.

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EREBUS0   12/2/2012 11:14:47 PM
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Time will tell for the new Windows products. PC sales are determined by a lot of factors. Key being its usefulness for your work applications. As long as a PC lets people do the normal day to day tasks, then PC's have a very useful life. Tablets will not change that need, only fail to satisfy it. The Surface is an interesting attempt to bridge both worlds, but the jury is still out as to whether it will meet either requirements. We need to get past the absurd notion of instant success. Everyone changes or tries new things at different rates. Easy to use is another word for "can't do anything useful" and hard to use means it has more power than you can understand with a quick look. Just my opinion.

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re: Windows 8 failing to boost PC sales
help.fulguy   12/1/2012 6:11:34 PM
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WinRT is doomed or I should say WART is doomed. Another misfire of Microsoft on Non-x86 platforms.

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xorbit   11/30/2012 5:14:23 PM
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I for one would be surprised if Windows 8 doesn't actually HURT PC sales. I went to a store to try it out, and boy, what a confusing and non-intuitive mess it is! It may make (more) sense on a small tablet, but using it on a big screen is genuinely awful. There is just no sense in making a system that shows very little information, full-screen on a big screen, with big fonts, lots of whitespace... but has the controls to actually do something hide OFF-screen. What a horrendous idea. It also seems to be designed to force maximum mouse movement: to this corner, then to that corner, close an app by grabbing the top of the screen and dragging all the way to the bottom, etc. And then there is the whole non-integration of the two disparate systems (desktop and "metro"), each with their own list of tasks, but not sharing, so the user needs to go hunt for them in two places... Maybe a person can get used to it and find ways around there issues, but you can't really call it an improvement in usability, whichever way you spin it. In trying to make one shoe that fits everyone, Microsoft has managed to make one that fits everyone badly. The whole thing makes a very bad first impression. And no, that's not just because it is different. I personally like different and unusual user interfaces, like GNOME 3 on Linux for example. Their attempt to provide a system that works for touch and desktop use alike seems much more sane.

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rick merritt   11/30/2012 4:57:35 PM
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Apple gave Microsoft a licnese to its user interface IP on the condition it did not implement anything remotely similar to Apple user interfaces. The result: Metro. Personally I have an aversion to learning this new in-yer-face interface.

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Matthew Quint   11/30/2012 8:50:21 AM
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There are so many industry commentators focused on categorizing machines. It does not matter if a machine is called a laptop, a tablet, or a hybrid. Each category contains systems with different feature sets and price points. What is ultimately important is how much utility and fun the buyer derives from his machine.

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Duane Benson   11/30/2012 6:08:09 AM
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I used the Windows 8 pre release version off and on for several months now. I having it stalled in a virtual machine so I didn't have to destroy my machine to try it out. I really don't understand it at all. They took some features that were designed around tablets and shoe horned them into an environment where they really don't belong. I don't think they've really taken any Windows 7 functionality away - the start menu is gone but you can more or less get the same functionality with the search. They haven't taken the capability away. They've just made it more difficult to find and use.

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mcgrathdylan   11/30/2012 1:08:14 AM
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@WW Thinker- a good point.

WW Thinker
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WW Thinker   11/30/2012 12:58:36 AM
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Typo: I was meant to say "It is NOT really a price hike".

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