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re: Donít talk to me about Windows 8!
M.Gibson   12/7/2012 11:59:15 PM
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In 1982 I was using a operating system like Windows 8, It was a Color Computer with a program that had graphics that allowed you have little programs when hit with a joystick. What a bunches of boloney.

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David Ashton   12/7/2012 11:16:47 PM
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Does anyone feel the same way about the MS Office 2010 "Ribbon" interface? I actually did approach it with an open mind, but found that some things that you used to be able to do with a right-click were now not possible. You have to actually go to the right ribbon, the right menu and do them there. I use Office a fair bit and although I can now usually do anything I need with a bit of searching, I still find it very frustrating. I suspect Win 8 is gong to be like that. The sad thing is that yes, MS will lose customers over this, but they have a lot of new young customers who don't know or care what the old UI was like, so they (MS and the customers) won't even notice the loss. I get the feeling they made Win 8 the way it is to avoid becoming the new Nokia. Whether it will do that for them remains to be seen....

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MarvA   12/7/2012 10:55:16 PM
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I don't hate Windows 8 yet becaise I took my son-in-law's advice a few months ago when I needed to replace one of my dying computers. He told me that I wouldn't like W8. I trusted him and didn't accept the "upgrade to W8 option". I thought that MS peaked at XP but finally saw something in W7 that I really liked, seeing all of the like-kind apps in a stack on the task bar. It makes me forgive MS for making it more difficult to "see" the path where I just was. Those translucent borders of the windows suck. I don't mind change if it gives me more productivity but I can see that MS is catering to a new generation that is dumbed down to a play environment of cool toys. I like toys but I want them to be productive.

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LiketoBike   12/7/2012 10:48:22 PM
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I write code. In several languages. I run simulations. In several domains (circuit, EM, system). I do CAD (drawings, schematics, layouts). Heck, I even touch-type. Hobbled by my need for a real keyboard. I can't see ANY of this being easier in Win8. As far as age being an issue...even a young person can get used to doing things a certain way (they call that "muscle memory"). At some point, we cross over from needing to LEARN a new tool, to being able to USE that new tool. Without constantly re-learning the tool!!! That's called productivity. It helps us get paid. MS keeps losing track of this. Max, you have it right...content CONSUMPTION vs content CREATION. My use does not STOP with reading datasheets, it BEGINS there...

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amelvill   12/7/2012 10:28:43 PM
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"I do think it's ironic that some Windows boosters are encouraging folks to use keyboard shortcuts if they can't figure out what to click." That's a good one, I remember hearing that about using Alt UP instead of the up button when I switched to Windows 7. Alt + X and Ctrl + Y is great only for two situations; honest shortcuts that you use a hundred times a day (undo, copy, cut, and paste are good examples) and command line applications. I use a UI so I don't have to memorize what CTRL X does for something I rarely use.

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Ryan Tennill   12/7/2012 10:09:13 PM
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Just wait until the winxs folder works its way to 20GB. This is usually once you finally have all your useful applications installed and are ready to actually do something useful.

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MVincent   12/7/2012 9:52:40 PM
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Hi Clive, I had my 30-year old nephew teach the mindset of Windows 8, how the 'Modern' screen is the new Start, how to pin/unpin to customize it, etc. I still don't like it visually, but at least it makes some sense now. I absolutely love how much faster everything is, but then I now boot from a SSD (in less than 10 seconds!) and the system is not yet cluttered by so many add-ons. I will probably get a touch pad in the future, but not a touch screen, at least not until they find a way to 'touch' without leaving fingerprints, maybe using the new touchless 'gesture' device from Microchips? Marc

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R0ckstar   12/7/2012 8:10:24 PM
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Performance is the only reason I would even remotely consider Win8. This is interesting if it's true, but computers can be fast only because they're in a new unfragmented state, or they can be fast because of OS/file system optimization and therefore STAY fast indefinitely. I seriously doubt anything from MS is going to be lean, efficient, and optimized. Time will tell after an endless stream of security/stability updates.

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R0ckstar   12/7/2012 7:38:04 PM
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This is the bottom line. Win8 was not designed for the old guard. It was designed for 10 and 20 somethings who type with 2 thumbs if at all. Although I think win7 was the zenith of MS products, I still jumped off the windows train a while back. I'm all linux now except in dire desperate circumstances when I have to run a win7 VM, but still inside linux. At least it makes me feel like my computer still belongs to me rather than Microsoft.

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BobsView   12/7/2012 5:24:54 PM
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Forgot to say: Three things I like about my new computer running Windows 8: (1) It's faster. (2) Way faster. (3) Unbelievably faster. I still think XP is the best operating system around, but "faster" always wins, hands down. No more, "Click and Wait".

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