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rick merritt
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re: Intel upping Atom ante
rick merritt   12/7/2012 4:44:56 PM
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How do you think Intel's Atom will fare against ARM SoCs in low power servers?

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re: Intel upping Atom ante
US Made   12/7/2012 5:19:35 PM
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Not so well. TSMC is on track for FINFET, many are doing ARM architeture license (it is like multi CPU groups). Other than process technology advantage, intel have nothing. Toomuch of process, Kills innovations... What are the new key enablers are coming out of INTC and MSFT R&D labs. When INTC moved out of Santa Clara for development, innovation died... Having said that we want to make sure US companies to be op top list...so it is vital for Intel manufacturing to be number 1.

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re: Intel upping Atom ante
krisi   12/7/2012 10:42:19 PM
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I think Intel will do OK in servers but mobile space has been lost to ARM and they will likely not get it back...Kris

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re: Intel upping Atom ante
resistion   12/7/2012 11:46:15 PM
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Atom for server? Big difference from Xeon and the ivy bridge series. Big problem for Atom is it hasn't led the scaling transitions. It is not early for 22nm. In fact, closer to opposite.

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re: Intel upping Atom ante
rick merritt   12/8/2012 12:44:22 AM
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Atom server will be in 22nm next year with Intel's Avoton.

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re: Intel upping Atom ante
rick merritt   12/8/2012 12:45:27 AM
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Good point. Even TI didnt see a busienss playing third to Qualcomm and Nvidia (and Exynos, and SE and). I imagine Intel must have been the first one to knock on Amazon Kindle's door when TI ended Omap for tabs.

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re: Intel upping Atom ante
TanjB   12/9/2012 6:10:21 AM
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It doesn't matter what instruction set it has. What matters is whether it is built to be low power. Seeing DDR3 is a red flag. If you want to build the next gen microserver, you need a wider, more power-efficient, short-wire interface from the CPU to the DRAM stack. The software in servers is typically bottlenecked on the memory. If you want more power-efficient servers, you have to lower the nJ per byte on those interfaces.

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danny1024   12/9/2012 8:56:20 PM
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Well we did think that Sony had a lock on consumer electronics and that Nokia had a lock on cellphones...then Apple came along and waylaid the lot.

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danny1024   12/9/2012 8:57:16 PM
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Does Avoton ship with Crystalwell? In any event, I completely agree with your analysis.

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re: Intel upping Atom ante
ChipConnoisseur   12/9/2012 11:23:07 PM
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Yawn. We already know Intel's 64 bit chip was delayed to 2015, a year after 64 bit ARM chips are starting to ship. And by the time they launch their dual core version, there will be quad core ARM versions. Sorry, Intel. You missed the boat. Again. Better luck in 2018.

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