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David Ashton
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David Ashton   12/8/2012 3:51:41 AM
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Max, Mick Jagger (Sorry, now SIR Michael Philip Jagger) wrote in 1965 in "Get off my cloud": "Then in flies a guy who's all dressed up like a Union Jack..." I trust that you (as a fellow Englishman, albeit a bit detribalised) will write to Sir Mick and advise him of the error of his ways? While you're about it, perhaps you could also point out to him that "Get off of my cloud" (the chorus of the song) is not the kind of English that he was knighted for. And that was from 1965 when he would have been not too long out of school and should have known better....

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Ed Baker   12/10/2012 5:31:21 PM
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I do hate to see a Union flag shown unintentionally upside-down, but as far as I can make out if it's not attached to a flagpole then either way round is potentialy correct. (If no flagpole then we don't know if we're looking at the "front" or the "back" of the flag, so it could be correct. Though I _think_ convention is that it's shown as if the flagpole was on the left. It's amazing how often it is displayed the wrong way up, and how few people realise.

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Max The Magnificent   12/11/2012 9:31:16 PM
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I know I shall be keeping an "eagle eye" open in the future :-)

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David Ashton   12/11/2012 11:19:08 PM
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When I was a boy scout, back in the mists of time, we got taught about this but I'd forgotten it till I saw this. If you remember that the top red diagonal furthest from the flagpole has to be high in its white band, that works no matter which side you look at. I remember pointing out to someone that their flag was upside down and getting roundly abused for my trouble....

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IDontUseTheForumSoWhyAmIForc   12/12/2012 6:22:20 PM
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And I was just getting over my North American ignorance of thinking that UK, Britain and England were one and the same ... oh well. Flying a flag upside down is used as a universal call of distress, however the Union Flag/Jack does make it difficult due to its intricacies of design. I'll admit that I never knew about the spacing relationships of the diagonals, but now I should be able to tell ... thanks for the education

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an_m   12/13/2012 7:52:35 PM
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Ah . Jack. I think its only a union jack when its flown from a jack staff, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackstaff else its a union flag, as flown from a flag pole.

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an_m   12/13/2012 7:54:30 PM
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so its a flag, not a jack in your article... we british ...

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CBurkeBtB   12/13/2012 7:59:11 PM
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Regarding Sir Mick: "While you're about it, perhaps you could also point out to him that "Get off of my cloud" (the chorus of the song) is not the kind of English that he was knighted for." That is the sort of English up with which one should not put... ;)

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Josiah   12/15/2012 7:31:26 PM
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I see the same error with the US flag where people think you just drop it down from the horizontal. The star field must always be in the upper left.

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Max The Magnificent   12/17/2012 9:05:38 PM
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The main Wikipedia article says that the flag flown from a jack staff is an itty-bitty one called a "Jack" -- but that it's now common usage to use both "Union Jack" and "Union Flag" to refer to the full-up flag

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