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sival
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sival   12/21/2012 8:52:24 PM
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Danny, you should really consider a career change, from engineering to politician. You certainly have the quility, Crooked and Incompetent. California state government & local government collected record amount of tax. The government employee salary & benefit is more than doubled the past decade. In San Jose, city employee cost alone is more than 80% of the city budget. Asian made up 10% of california pupolation. They also have the highest household income, which uaually translates into more tax dollars. BTW, in the current immigration system, it's nearly impossible to bring the extended family here. How could they suck up the welfare of CA? It's really your second cousin or third niece, those who worked at all level of government, sucked CA dry.

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nosubject   12/21/2012 8:34:33 PM
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To test this out, CA in fact can balance the budget and cut the welfare. This will lead to a win-win situation. The budget will be balanced, and the AsianAmerican will still stay in STEM because I think the root-cause is the culture.

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danny1024   12/21/2012 6:59:30 PM
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Yep. My other degree is in Cognitive Science with an emphasis on the neural correlates of general human intelligence. Northeast Asians (Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese) tend to have disproportionately strong visual-spatial and symbolic reasoning at the expense of verbal and conceptual reasoning. Consequently, you would expect Northeast Asians to be over represented in engineering and other technical fields that emphasize visual-spatial and symbolic reasoning. However, the disparity in visual-spatial & symbolic reasoning between Northeast Asians and Northwest Europeans (from whom the majority of white Americans are descended)is too small to explain the workforce demographics at play in Silicon Valley. Rather, I suspect the *over over* representation of Asians in Silicon Valley is due to proximity to Asia, the collectivist nature of most Asian cultures and the fact that Asians are viewed (rightly or wrongly) as cheaper employees. It's this latter point that probably, mostly explains their representation in a very high cost state like California.

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danny1024   12/21/2012 6:44:58 PM
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In Silicon Valley or in the US in general? I went to an engineering school in the Midwest (late 90's) and then an engineering grad school on the east coast (2007 - 2012). Most of the white engineers were native born US citizens. Some were first generation Americans (mostly the descendants of Russian Jews who were allowed to leave the USSR a la Sergey Brin). It bears repeating that California is *very* unrepresentative of the US as a whole particularly in workforce demography. The remainder were Eastern/Central European who came over for late high school, undergrad or grad school. This second group impressed me the most in terms of technical talent especially with respect to other non-native engineers.

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SylvieBarak   12/21/2012 6:34:27 PM
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The report certainly raises more questions than it answers...

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danny1024   12/21/2012 6:33:18 PM
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My insinuation is that the first thing nearly every Asian engineer does when he /she gets settled in the Valley is to import his/her aged parents and extended family most of whom end up suckling on California's generous (by US standards) welfare state. Even with the engineer earning good to great money and paying California income tax it is not enough to offset the burdens imposed by the rest of his/her clan.

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truekop   12/21/2012 5:10:31 PM
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@danny1024 I suppose but for the Asian American community paying all the taxes the CA budget deficit would have increased even further...that may be another point to think about...

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danny1024   12/21/2012 4:44:48 PM
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Strangely, California's budget deficit has increased in direct proportion to the increase in Asian-American tech workers in Silicon Valley. Surely a coincidence.

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Wnderer   12/21/2012 4:37:41 PM
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My question is what percentage of white engineers are immigrants and what percentage is native born. Then break that down by age.

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DAH2136   12/21/2012 3:59:50 PM
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Ever read the Bell Curve?

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