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eewiz
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re: Apple's stock nosedives after forecasted sales decline
eewiz   1/24/2013 8:49:05 AM
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"Today I view Apple as a huge ship that lacks not only a rudder, but also the forward vision needed to set the direction of the rudder." And who is "Paul McWilliams"? Did he ever had any vision of building any product and bring it to market? apart from talking ? "Apple Inc.'s stock price declined nearly 10 percent in after hours trading Wednesday (Jan. 23) after the firm projected sales would decline by more than 20 percent sequentially in the current quarter." Apple sales had always been cyclic with huge numbers in the holiday quarter and smaller numbers in the quarter after. Same happened last year!! "Even so, sales were slightly below consensus analysts' expectations." Have the analysts ever got it right? The analysts forgot to adjust the ,slope, of the linear interpolation curve, ie their main tool of prediction, properly. haha. In the last 10 Qs, the first 7 Qs, the slope was too low.. So Apple beat all their expectations. And the last 3 Qs, they overcorrected the slope and missed it again. "To say that investors are idiots, really is an unfair dig at idiots." http://venturebeat.com/2013/01/23/apple-and-the-stock-market-to-say-that-investors-are-idiots-really-is-an-unfair-dig-at-idiots/#isemkm8ivqQzzu7D.99

bordersboy
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re: Apple's stock nosedives after forecasted sales decline
bordersboy   1/24/2013 10:35:26 AM
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so where are the analysts talking the stock to $1000. Apple have run the ideas well but they are lacking new ones at the end of the day they make a phone, a tablet, a music player and a pc, 4 products we all have. To buy you need incentive, thats whats lacking with the globel paralysis of no new must have. In electronics people are used to more for less every year which is why yo innovate and cost reduce, Last two years , Apple did neither

anon3860072
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anon3860072   1/24/2013 11:32:10 AM
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You are wrong. Apple's current lines of products are nothing innovative about. On the other hand, there will be many fools on earth who are willing to pay Apple $1 but are happy to get only $0.6 worth of goods (relative to other device makers like Nokia and Samsung) cents in return.

anon3860072
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re: Apple's stock nosedives after forecasted sales decline
anon3860072   1/24/2013 11:42:02 AM
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Those are the analysts who brought the world economy to its knee a few years ago. Don't worry, you will have them as companions for many years to come. People like the CEOs of BoA, JP Morgan Chase, City Group, Goldman Sachs will keep feeding on the middle class in USA until the once-great nation becomes a ruin, all under the umbrella of free economy or whatever sound grand!

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re: Apple's stock nosedives after forecasted sales decline
rick merritt   1/24/2013 4:18:56 PM
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Will iTV give Apple another wave to surf?

chipmonk0
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re: Apple's stock nosedives after forecasted sales decline
chipmonk0   1/24/2013 5:51:38 PM
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Another "bubble" bites the dust ?? Bubbles are inevitable when amateurs have access to day trading. But even for them Apple's weaknesses ( total dependence on Suppliers / Competitors for critical components and technology, very little "secret sauce" that can't be replicated ) are finally sinking in. To be able to get away with their high markup and maintain stock value, Apple needs totally new revolutionary products every 2 to 3 years. Its been 3 years since the iPad.

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re: Apple's stock nosedives after forecasted sales decline
any1   1/24/2013 7:34:21 PM
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I don't pretend to understand financial markets but it seems to me Apple stock at it's current PE (price to earnings) ratio of about 10, is a relative bargin to the PE ratio of the S&P 500 index, currently at well over 16. It would seem to be a buying opportunity. Especially when you consider Apple reportedly has over 100 billion dollars in cash sitting around.

old account Frank Eory
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re: Apple's stock nosedives after forecasted sales decline
old account Frank Eory   1/24/2013 8:08:26 PM
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I believe the cash number is $137B, which represents almost 1/3 of it's share price. The last paragraph of the story is of course history, but a really remarkable history -- "Apple's quarterly revenue of $54.5 billion was up 41 percent from the previous quarter and up 18 percent from the year-ago quarter. Apple's net profit for the quarter was $13.1 billion, or $13.81 per share, up 60 percent from the previous quarter and roughly flat with the year-ago quarter." The fearful are dumping their shares at a huge discount, on a stock that was arguably already under-valued. I am anxiously waiting for a local minimum...

anon7632755
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anon7632755   1/24/2013 10:07:39 PM
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Of course, Apple always exceeds their own guidance. The analysts are the people who were coming up with earnings expectations far above what Apple indicates. So, I've never understood this: the company beats its guidance, but doesn't beat the random numbers pulled out of the analysts' asses, and then the stock price gets punished? Wall Street analysts are idiots. But we already knew that.

JollyPaul
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JollyPaul   1/25/2013 2:50:33 AM
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W, Apple's ongoing success shows a huge population disagrees with you, that does not make them fools. The value of Apple's products is what people are willing to pay. There is more to great products than the BOM cost.

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