Design Con 2015
Breaking News
Comments
Oldest First | Newest First | Threaded View
Daniel Payne
User Rank
CEO
re: Stars of DesignCon: Behavioral modeling aids analog/mixed-signal
Daniel Payne   1/29/2013 4:25:21 PM
NO RATINGS
I think that you meant to say that Verilog-AMS was derived from the IEEE 1364 Verilog HDL specification, however your article says it was derived from VHDL. http://www.accellera.org/activities/committees/verilog-ams/about/

old account Frank Eory
User Rank
Rookie
re: Stars of DesignCon: Behavioral modeling aids analog/mixed-signal
old account Frank Eory   1/29/2013 7:47:00 PM
NO RATINGS
I bet this was a great panel discussion. Wish I could've attended. BTW, as cool as Verilog-AMS is, it is still awfully slow for a transient simulation with a lot of high frequency events. For chip-level verification of an AMS IC, we have had good results just modeling analog blocks in behavioral Verilog. You can make those models as simple or as detailed as you like, and still maintain essentially the same fast simulation times as a pure digital Verilog RTL simulation.

hthibieroz
User Rank
Rookie
re: Stars of DesignCon: Behavioral modeling aids analog/mixed-signal
hthibieroz   1/31/2013 4:51:20 PM
NO RATINGS
Frank, It was indeed a great panel. I had panelists from various background experts in their areas sharing their opinions on various questions pertinent to behavioral modeling- from IBIS/IBIS-AMI to VerilogAMS and real number modeling. The panel was really well received and there was a lot of interesting reactions in the audience. I will generate a summary because some of the questions that I asked triggered really interesting responses. Regarding your comment, there is definitively a push to move the simulation entirely in the digital space. However, I do believe, that depending of what your end goal is (functional verification/ first path or need for more analog accuracy), simulating only using a digital solver (using behavioral verilog or real number modeling) may not be enough and you may have to deal with a mixed flow.

hthibieroz
User Rank
Rookie
re: Stars of DesignCon: Behavioral modeling aids analog/mixed-signal
hthibieroz   2/28/2013 5:36:57 PM
NO RATINGS
Hello, I wrote a summary at http://bit.ly/WjRxZT



Most Recent Comments
eetcowie
 
eetcowie
 
eetcowie
 
eetcowie
 
eetcowie
 
eetcowie
 
eetcowie
 
krisi
 
Max The Magnificent
Flash Poll
Top Comments of the Week
Like Us on Facebook
EE Times on Twitter
EE Times Twitter Feed

Datasheets.com Parts Search

185 million searchable parts
(please enter a part number or hit search to begin)
EE Life
Frankenstein's Fix, Teardowns, Sideshows, Design Contests, Reader Content & More
Max Maxfield

The 10 Commandments of Electronics
Max Maxfield
12 comments
My chum Rick Curl dropped into my office this morning. We had both decided that we desperately needed some face-to-face time to talk about the current Doctor Who (our feelings are mixed at ...

Martin Rowe

No 2014 Punkin Chunkin, What Will You Do?
Martin Rowe
Post a comment
American Thanksgiving is next week, and while some people watch (American) football all day, the real competition on TV has become Punkin Chunkin. But there will be no Punkin Chunkin on TV ...

Rich Quinnell

Making the Grade in Industrial Design
Rich Quinnell
13 comments
As every developer knows, there are the paper specifications for a product design, and then there are the real requirements. The paper specs are dry, bland, and rigidly numeric, making ...

Martin Rowe

Book Review: Controlling Radiated Emissions by Design
Martin Rowe
1 Comment
Controlling Radiated Emissions by Design, Third Edition, by Michel Mardiguian. Contributions by Donald L. Sweeney and Roger Swanberg. List price: $89.99 (e-book), $119 (hardcover).