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Bert22306
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re: China's hollow cyber-espionage argument
Bert22306   3/12/2013 1:24:19 AM
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Yes, of course, anyone here can make a fool of themselves anytime they please. What do you think would happen? The Red Guard would lock you up? Come now. Inform yourself. Like I already said, criticism against the administration, in the US, comes from Americans first and loudest. You can HARDLY same the same about China. So your criticisms aginst the US sound phoney and forced. Can you use a regular Google search engine in China? No? What are you afraid of?

sprite0022
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re: China's hollow cyber-espionage argument
sprite0022   3/12/2013 1:09:41 AM
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lol, can you say you wish your president die tomorrow in US? I doubt it. In china we can access EET, WSJ, BBC, CNN , you name it. so what's your point? do you know more news, no. can you call your leader a monkey? No. btw, in china you don't need to wait till 21 to drink beer. yeah, in US porn is much easier to get. which is a advantage for americans. do you mean porn improve your credibility?

Bert22306
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re: China's hollow cyber-espionage argument
Bert22306   3/11/2013 8:26:38 AM
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You have to admit, though, that these references sound hollow, coming from a country without a free press. Here, start reading the more recent history you should know about, say after the Sino-Japanese war: http://www.enotes.com/china-reference/china I'm always skeptical of those who can't find a way to criticize their own first. They lose credibility.

sprite0022
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re: China's hollow cyber-espionage argument
sprite0022   3/11/2013 12:35:56 AM
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great threads, impressive. slavery, I almost forget it. reminds me of the movie cold mountain, american solder (south or north) murder civilian babies, rape civilian ladies in it. @ Johnson, are you from mars?

resistion
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resistion   3/10/2013 4:02:56 PM
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Lol, US must be able to civilians in cyberspace if it wants to effectively fight terrorism. Whether it does so, I don't think it wants us to know.

bogdanbmcc
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re: China's hollow cyber-espionage argument
bogdanbmcc   3/8/2013 10:46:36 PM
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I was born, grew up and left a communist country of much milder issue than China. While US certainly has got its share of sins while exercising power I have good grounds to shudder while thinking what a powerful China might do. And, no, I am not ignorant of China at all, I do agree that China grievances are real. But I also understand that the ruling entity of China might have little of no compunction to use these grievances to whip up a nationalistic fervor. The dynamics of totalitarian systems are such that the violence is always very close by ...

Bert22306
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re: China's hollow cyber-espionage argument
Bert22306   3/8/2013 10:11:35 PM
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Yeah, I'm with Duane, in response to the barrage of political posturing posts. The fundamental difference between Americans and most other countries' citizens is, we don't bend over backwards to try to justify the mistakes of our government or other citizens. Nor does our press. Big difference. For example, I can't see how the US press would have had the gall to imply, back in that 2001 P-3 incident 110 Km south of Hainan in international waters, that a P-3 could outmaneuver a jet fighter. Most papers in this country would be embarrassed to publish such drivel. We would equally not try to justify shooting down a civilian, unarmed, 747, with claims that it had violated our air space and was a spook flight. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007 Where people get thrown in jail for telling the truth, this sort of nonsense happens on a regular basis.

Duane Benson
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Duane Benson   3/8/2013 6:56:45 PM
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- Continued from previous message - We are the dregs of the old world, the misfits, the opportunists. Pretty much every bad thing that any country in the world has every done has done to some degree here at one point or another. Any of you outside of the borders that hate us, despise us, envy us, like us, love us or whatever are really just looking at yourselves. The other key difference with this country is our distrust of government - all governments. Nationalism ebbs and flows here, of course, but not trusting government is built in to the foundation of this country's government. By and large, we only reluctantly accept any government. It's in our constitution and it's in the structure of our government. A lot of the world doesn't trust our government or like us at all. Well, neither do we. We, by design, give different parts of our government the boot every few years. Some out most vocal critics are our own people. We're just less likely to kill them for being critical than are some other countries. Yet with all of that, we've managed to build a pretty good life for ourselves. We have a lot of work yet to do, but so does everyone else. As evidenced by the number of people that still want to move here from the rest of the world, we must be doing something right. A kid can move here from Russia and end up starting one of the most influential companies in the modern world. You can move here from South Africa and end up sending rockets into outer space. You can have a Kenyan father and a poverty stricken American mother and end up as president. We've done a few things right.

Duane Benson
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re: China's hollow cyber-espionage argument
Duane Benson   3/8/2013 6:56:36 PM
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SkyhighSG, et al. I'm not a fan of discussing politics in electronics publications, or really anywhere, but this series of comments strikes a nerve with me. I don't think that most of the world really understands the United States, which is ironic, because we are largely comprised of the rest of the world. That means that every strength, every failing and everything in between that exists here, also exists outside of this country and vice versa. For much of human history - perhaps all of human history - the major theme of the human race has been to conqueror, exterminate or enslave someone else. Sadly that's what we humans have done and sadly, a lot of that still goes on. The key differences with the US, in my opinion, are how we got here and how we treat our government. The vast majority of us are not from here. We were kicked out, chased out or kidnapped out from everywhere and anywhere else. We were the people that couldn't hack it in the old world. We were the people that saw this country as an opportunity to exploit land, resources or people. Some of us were here first but were killed off by smallpox from Europe and the remaining few were treated like animals for quite a few years. We held on to slavery way longer than we should have. As "the land of the free" we should never have allowed slavery, but we did. Many of us are here because our ancestors were on the run or were hiding from something. Some wanted to come here and bully people. We thought the governments we used to live under were bad. We rebelled against everything and everyone. We are still rebelling, both here and in our former homelands. We rebel against what we see as injustice whether it's our business or not. Many of our "friends" are more or less reluctant friends. Sometimes we're bullys and sometimes we're humanitarians - just like everyone else. - continued in next message -

SkyhighSG
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SkyhighSG   3/8/2013 1:36:08 PM
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All I wanted to say, to Amercians in the previous generations, this generation and future generations, do not err the footsteps of the past that were wrong. Quantitative Easing is bad enough. In fact, under Obama's Administration, you made THREE QEs. Still want more? Your US debt pulled the whole world with you down to the abyss. Is this fair? Your so-called enermy - China, helped you out in 2008 and 2009 by buying your US bonds, injecting money to bail you out, but you betrayed Chinese trust and immediately rolled your plans to execute QE, de-valuing your US dollars. Before Lehman Bros collapsed Sep/Oct 2008, you sold structured bonds to Europe, causing subprime and turned many investors in Europe bankrupt and pauper OVERNIGHT. My advice - stop harming the world. Do less evil. Do more good. Your problems have implicated everyone in the entire world for too many years since 2008. Oneday, USA will not have any friend, but enermies. Today, you may be a superpower thinking technology is your only protection. Do not forget, no matter how strong you are, there is always a weakness. Do more good. Do invest in the future with renewable and sustainable energy and technologies. You can read what Al Gore has spoken in AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH. "When it is late, you could be too late to realise" Sometimes, it is better to start doing good, early...

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