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chipmonk0
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re: London Calling: Iron Lady bows out
chipmonk0   4/14/2013 12:58:06 PM
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Are you perhaps familiar with the well deserved term "perfidious Albion " coined by Napoleon ? The UK has always tried to turn the US against its continental competitors like France or Germany by using vile, insidious propaganda and Churchill was the principal practitioner of that. The two world wars of the last century were nothing more than wars of British jealousy against a superior Germany ( from which country the "Windsors", their own closet - German Monarchy is derived ) by recruiting US resources using vile propaganda since WW I ( "Belgian children bayoneted and thrown into wells", carrying munitions in the Lusitania, the fake Zimmerman telegram,.. ). Branding France a nation of " cheese eating surrender - monkeys " when Chirac resisted joining the invaion of Iraq under false pretexts was only the latest instalment of that perfidy.

Bert22306
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re: London Calling: Iron Lady bows out
Bert22306   4/13/2013 11:01:11 PM
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Nothing wrong with the special relationship, for countries that have such similar roots. Ditto with Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. I'm all for it, even though my own family roots are NOT from that same tree. It's still a tree that I like very much. My suspicion is that if the UK didn't have that "special relationship," perhaps it would have joined the Eurozone. No reason to think it would be less than it is. There are plenty of other monarchies in the Eurozone, right? Doesn't make much difference what title the head of state holds, seems to me.

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re: London Calling: Iron Lady bows out
Bert22306   4/13/2013 10:43:31 PM
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A friend who is politically to the left of me asked me once, "What did Reagan ever do for the common man?" To which I replied without hesitation, "He deregulated oil in 1981, which ended the recurring energy crises tout de suite." I'm old enough to remember that oil was supposedly an exception to the rule, according to the common wisdom of that time. No way could oil be deregulated, we were told. Reagan wasn't listening, apparently, and made it happen based only on gut instinct or principle. At least in that one example, he was right on the money. It's true that no extreme ever works right, but you will note what is happening now in the Eurozone, or even within Germany itself, between the ex-East Germany and ex-West Germany. The national economies/societies more heavily biased to public distribution of wealth are hurting badly. Those more like the US (or at least what I hope the US will remain), are recovering or even doing reasonably well. I actually think that Mikhail Gorbachev was most instrumental in ending the Cold War. He saw that the Soviet Union could simply not afford to outspend the West in the arms race, and pull itself out economic stagnation at the same time. It was an incredible period of history to live through. The Polish rebellion, the Romanian overthrow of Nikolae Ceausesku, and the Strategic Defense Initiative, no doubt all contributed to his sense that something had to change drastically. And durned if it didn't do just that.

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re: London Calling: Iron Lady bows out
bogdanbmcc   4/12/2013 10:43:06 PM
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Texas want to secede? Go, go, go! Take please Kansas, Missisipi etc etc (all the Stars-n-Bars, disbelief in evolution and global warning, pro-life, family values with the high teen pregnancy and divorce rates, obesity and all the other good things you have got there...). We will set up ourselves up North pretty, cozy, rich and sofisticated American counterpart to Switzerlad or something like that ...

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re: London Calling: Iron Lady bows out
bogdanbmcc   4/12/2013 10:15:03 PM
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Being born and grown up in a communist country I certainly can appreciate some quite shrewd political deeds of Margie (and Ronnie, and lets not forget John Paul II...). However their economic legacy is less clear and quite qustionable. At least it would be fair to suggest that the current malignant simplistic conservative ecomics are NOT delivering what had been promised, if not ruining both US and UK ...

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re: London Calling: Iron Lady bows out
C VanDorne   4/12/2013 6:39:56 PM
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Watch what you wish for, Mr Lee. At this stage of the game, Texas would probably take that deal. But they'd tell you to keep your Falklands and before the ink dried they'd proudly declair independence from Mexico and go back to being the independent soveriegnty they once were. (Recall that we didn't get them from Mexico. Texas is the only state in the union to have once been its own country.)

C VanDorne
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re: London Calling: Iron Lady bows out
C VanDorne   4/12/2013 6:25:30 PM
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Thank you for the clarification. On this we will agree: there are any number of sound justifactions for term limits. But specific to those two, both of thier positions were/are already term limited and their contributions had been well made before they reached that stage.

C VanDorne
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re: London Calling: Iron Lady bows out
C VanDorne   4/12/2013 5:59:46 PM
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Thanks. I recommend seeing "Nine Days that Changed the World" for some perspective on his contribution.

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re: London Calling: Iron Lady bows out
Duane Benson   4/12/2013 5:18:44 PM
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C VanDorne - you've given me a bit of a research project. I hadn't thought of Pope John Paul playing a role, but I'm certainly going to read up on it. I was a young adult while all of that was going on and it was an exciting, fascinating and frightening time. I'll keep my opinion of Gorbachev's role, but I want to hear more on the Pope's role.

chipmonk0
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re: London Calling: Iron Lady bows out
chipmonk0   4/12/2013 1:47:07 PM
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Ask yourselves if the UK can maintain a 1st world lifestyle and a "Disneyland" Monarchy / Aristocracy w/o the very one - way "special relationship" w/ the US, that has been the cornerstone of British policy ever since Churchill. No more easy War Profits from playing the Camp Follower, no more Cigars & Champagne, not even Top Hats !

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